With how close the two blocs are, this is a big shift.

Labour: 32.3 percent, down 3.6 points
National: 36.6 percent, up 1.3 points
ACT: 12.1 percent, up 1.3 points
Greens: 9.6 percent, up 1.5 points
Te Pāti Māori: 2.7 percent, down 0.8 point
NZ First: 4.1 percent, up 1.1 points

TOP is down 0.5% to 1.5%

Also, ardern is still at 3.7% for preferred prime minister somehow, just behind Winston Peters.

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    It’s such a bizarre scenario, given Luxon isn’t popular, what exactly are people choosing National for? Their… “Policies”? I could understand if people were just swayed by the identity politics of it all, even if I think that’s a bit shallow, but that doesn’t seem to be the case.

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      A lot of people, myself included, don’t want to see what type of damage TPM could cause if they have a seat at the table, and won’t vote for either three as a result.

      I also do like some of National’s policies, the second Terrace and Mt Vic tunnels are badly needed, for example.

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            Out of curiosity, do you know that co-governance is already being used in many places right? For example the governance of the Waikato river is a co-governance model. There have been no issues that I know of, and everything runs smoothly.

            What exactly is your fear with regards to co-governance?

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              My view is that co governance is valid where natural resources are concerned, but it should never be used when man made infrastructure is concerned.

              The proposed model, where Iwi have a 50% say, is also rather unprecedented.

              It’s just a bad idea all around.

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                They don’t really have 50% say. I can only speak to the proposal with 3 waters, but it was not the governing body that had 50% Iwi input. The group of experts that chose those who form the governing body, which was to be done on based on merit as usual, was shared between Iwi and non-iwi. This treats Iwi as an form of ‘expert’, by acknowledging they are the original caretakers of the land.

                I cannot claim certainty of Te Tiriti o Waitangi, as I am not an expert, but I also believe it was a stipulation to ensure Māori retained control/governorship over certain aspects of the land, including waterways.

                ETA: I want to also make it clear I am not defending or endorsing TPM btw, just that I don’t reject them solely based on the ideas around co-governance.

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                  The difference between them having 50% say, and having 50% say in the board is mere pedantry, in my view. Of course they will appoint people who will represent their views and interests.

                  I also don’t see what any of this has to do with decisions regarding man made infrastructure, these are not waterways we’re talking about, but built infrastructure.

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    I really wish we had a proper progressive party again.

    The right bloc just ain’t it. Labour is fighting too hard for the centre.

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      For all the disappointment we have for Labour not being progressive enough, National and Act oppose and want to take in the opposite direction.

      The Greens have been where progressive policy is at for 20 years and deserve support imo. What they put up becomes Labour policy within 10 years or so

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        Pretty much why I’ve voted for the greens last few times. But they’re still missing what Jim Andertons Progressive party was.

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      By all rights, I should be a staunch Labour Party supporter, they are supposed to be the party of the working class, after all. And their progressive policies around reproductive rights I support, as well as gay marriage etc.

      But they’ve just lost their way in my view.