Anon baits people into recommending good RPGs
Fallout, Wasteland, The Elder Scrolls.
Also smaller games come to my mind, like Child of Light or South Park: The Stick Of Truth which are made by Ubisoft Montreal.Yeah, “western RPGs” from a couple decades ago were mostly made in the US. Then Bethesda bought interplay and it all went to shit.
And thanks for reminding me of Child of Light, I’ve had it in my library for ages, installing it to my steam deck right now :)
You’re never gonna believe this friend, but Montreal is actually in Canada.
Still not Europe or Asia, innit?
Oh yes the three continents. Europe Asia and everywhere else.
Ah Canada famously not in the same continent as the United States. Absolutely not in the Americas
Never in my life have I seen someone say “Americans” and mean “People from the continent of America.”
South American banger RPG when?
Well, it would be a bit unfair to talk about “European” games and “Asian” games, and on the other side “USA-made” games.
There are three countries in North America, we should at least include the two others.North America*. Besides that, people often group Canadians and Americans together quite often. The two countries are very similar culturally. I have seen it become more and more common to say North Americans when talking about things culturally. When it comes to politics or the specific country itself, of course it makes sense to separate them.
Fun fact Canada is in North America
Stick of truth was developed by Obsidian
You’re right it was only published by Ubi. The Fractured but Whole was developed by Ubisoft*
well… fallout, wasteland.
pillars of eternity? I don’t know if americans made it, but it was pretty intensely american.
Fallout and TES are “alright” at most, and extremely boring theme parks at worst
Fallout? And I mean the Black Isle fallouts.
Speaking of Black Isle, they also did Planescape and Icewind Dale.
Also: Bioware made Baldur’s Gate 1 and 2; they’re Canadian not European. Unless they just mean 3.
And of course, the OG RPG: D&D. Pretty sure Gygax was American.
After 20 years you need to do something new. You can’t live forverer on your legacy.
Swiss person here:
What’s that supposed to mean?
Are you trying to say we aren’t recognized as the supreme military power in Europe anymore?
Surely you’re joking, right?!
What the fuck does this mean? I mean that no studio in America did anything good in decades. Baldur’s gate 2 was 2003. What good rpg was there? Mass effect was good. 2 and 3 didn’t deliver to legendary grade. Bioware is dead. Blizzard is dead. Bethesda did nothing since skyrim.
you can’t live on your legacy forever
Was what i was playing on
The joke is that we Swiss have a glorious warrior-past that noone remembers anymore.
I was supporting your point with a joke. That’s"the fuck" that it meant
Is Neverwinter nights American? That’s a good one.
NWN1 was from Bioware, NWN2 from Obsidian. Both are from the USA, but NWN2 is nearly 20 years old by now.
I didn’t know we were ignoring old games. It was just what came to mind, sorry.
I don’t know what we are doing, but anon listed recent games ¯_(ツ)_/¯
(Although it irritates me to no end when people say “Baldurs Gate” while talking about BG3)
Bioware is from Canada, not the US.
Still newer than the Infinity Engine games mentioned (BG1 & 2, Icewind Dale and Planescape Torment).
dont limit just to black isle fallouts lol
3 new vegas and 4 are great and even 76 is good
4 is not even remotely great it is genuinely awful 3 is fine I won’t insult 3 I enjoyed it not as much as nv I loved nv but I enjoyed it it was good even but 4 is an insult
wow really cause i played 4 and it was a great time because the game was great. you must have a very high standard. never played a single game under 90 score on metacritic (but that would mean new vegas is worse than 4)
As a big fan of fallout, imo, 4 is the weakest of series. Engine was outdated, repeated time wasting quests, boring world building, the base building was their new exciting feature but it fell kinda flat. Now with 1k+ mods game can actually be a lot fun though. Also 74 didn’t exist.
4 is a great shooter. It’s a terrible RPG.
Not even in the same league. Barely even RPGs. New Vegas is the best of them and it still pales in comparison.
didnt know it was contest of most rpg game and not just great game
Did you not even read the meme? It’s about good RPGs.
yep i read that. its why i brought up those games. they are good rpgs. did you read the meme? they are not talking about the game with the most rpg elements
Pathfinder - Asia
Uhh, no? Paizo is an American company. Based in Redmond, Washington, according to Wikipedia.
I think they meant Owlcat Games, creators of Pahtfinder Kingmaker and Wrath of the Righteous video games. They are based in Cyprus but their developers are all over the place from what I know (so it’s more Europe-Asia kind of thing but I may be wrong)
Honestly, everyone’s developers are all over the place. Almost every studio hires contractors from wherever to do things as basic as spell checking to pathfinding to artwork. Hell, sometimes they outsource story writing too.
For RPGs they almost always outsource the writing. Crafting a good story is not really a skill that a lot of the major developers have a lot of call for (normally they just have you shoot the bad guys because) so they don’t have people on staff for it. In RPGs stories are a lot more important though, so they actually have to put some effort in.
Aren’t most RPG video games developed by companies that primarily do RPG video games? Like, Warhorse was founded specifically to make KCD. Fallout Shelter is the only non-RPG Bethesda has developed since 2008. And The Witcher Adventure Game and the Gwent games are the only non-RPGs CD Projekt Red have ever done.
pathfinding
Pathfinders, you could say
The post is clearly talking about video games. It is reasonable to conclude they are talking about the Pathfinder video games, which were not made by Paizo, but by Owlcat Games. Whether or not Cyprus is part of Asia is kind of debatable, but they are certainly not American.
It gets even worse when you know Europe and Asia are the same continent.
Errh, sort of.
It really depends on your definition of Continent. Most people would argue that Asia is a different continent.
Our accepted definition of what a continent is sucks. Why is Europe considered a continent but India is not? Every argument for Europe being a separate continent applies even better to India.
Europe just wanted to be special and controlled science at the time, change my mind.
I propose we reclassify india as a dwarf continent
the pluto of continents
It has to do with geology. Europe basically swallowed up and mixed in with another continent a long time ago after Pangea broke up
In contrast, the present eastern boundary of Europe partially adheres to the Ural and Caucasus Mountains, which is somewhat arbitrary and inconsistent compared to any clear-cut definition of the term “continent”.
The current division of Eurasia into two continents now reflects East-West cultural, linguistic and ethnic differences which vary on a spectrum rather than with a sharp dividing line.
There’s really no physical reasoning for it. You can read on in that article for the historical basis if you want (basically, Homer and other Greeks coined it, and it just kind of stuck), but it’s really quite arbitrary where scientists actually draw the line.
My bad, should clarify I was referring to this specifically:
In geology, a continent is defined as “one of Earth’s major landmasses, including both dry land and continental shelves”. The geological continents correspond to seven large areas of continental crust that are found on the tectonic plates, but exclude small continental fragments such as Madagascar that are generally referred to as microcontinents. Continental crust is only known to exist on Earth.
india has HALF the landmass…seriously…thats not a continent
If we’re going based on landmass, shouldn’t Russia be its own continent? Russia is almost twice as big as Europe, and it’s culturally unique compared to its neighbors.
India is part of the Indian subcontinent which is part of the Eurasian continent. This is the official goelogical definition. Don’t listen to uneducated children on the internet.
I feel like most people actually don’t care that much about Continental Boundries to give an Argument either way.
Geologists, scornfully staring at you.
Not sort of. Most people are idiots. There are seven geological continents and here’s a list of them:
Africa Antarctica Australia Eurasia North America South America Zealandia
These contain various subcontinents.
I’m surprised no one has mentioned Mass Effect yet. Or Dragon Age, even with a picture of a cosplay of Morrigan in the OP.
BioWare is Canadian
If Elden Ring is Canadian, and Witcher is European, then we can just call Bioware games North American
Of course, it makes perfect sense to describe Canadian products as North American, but OP asks about “American” RPGs. It would be strange to call Canadian Bacon “American food”.
I thought that was the joke.
I’m gonna defend the Americans on this one.
Fallout and Elder Scrolls are two of the most obvious examples that could have been listed, but they weren’t.
Last mainline TES game is a decade old and Fallout 4 is also nearing that decade. Meanwhile almost all games in OPs list have released in the last decade.
There’s Obsidian but besides them I really can’t come up with another good RPG studio from the US that has released a game in the last decade.
So what you’re saying is that Bethesda are RPG hipsters.
Anything ever made by black isle studios. This includes fallout 1 + 2.
also GTA
GTA and RDR have zero decision making or conversation options or skill trees. They are open world action games that took some design notes from open world RPGs. But Rockstar is a British studio anyway.
Yet another English L. USA number 1
Intentionally lists RPGs not made in US
“Why doesn’t my list have RPGs made in the US?!?”
ಠ_ಠ
Elder scrolls, Fallout, Red Dead Redemption, and Mass Effect would all like a word
Not including FF, Dragon Quest or Persona in Asian RPGs?? Blasphemy!
Yeah that’s like saying “great Nintendo games like Splatoon”. I mean i don’t disagree, it’s an imaginative game, but hello? Mario? Zelda?
Well, the Diablo series was quite good
was
I blissfully remember getting my hands on the Hellfire expansion for the first one; I didn’t even know it existed until my uncle gave it to me.
wasn’t blizzard north canadian, though?
When Canada makes good shit we just claim it as American. People rarely call us on it.
oh. okay then, yeah, diablo, fav game as a young kid, local california studio, whoo!
I thought Canada’s pride and glory was Eidos Montreal and now you’re telling me Blizzard North was here too? Oh goodie!
California IIRC.
I know blizzard (main) was in anaheim. just south (and sprawling with, but in orange county so nobody sane would ever go there) of los angeles. might be what you’re thinking of? but also you could be right, and it was in, like, glendale or some shit.
Blizzard North (formerly known as Condor) was an American video game development studio based in San Mateo, California. The studio was the Bay Area division of Blizzard Entertainment, known for its Diablo series. The company was originally based in Redwood City, California, before moving a short distance away to San Mateo, with Blizzard proper being based in Irvine, southern California.
shit. okay, close on half.
Wants good RPGs
lists Solasta, one of the mid-dest games I’ve have the neutrality of playing
Dungeons and Dragons
The OG RPG.
yes but they said good.
Exactly. All RPGs can trace their lineage back to Gygax.
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there are some pretty cool people with some pretty terrible ancestors. I don’t think you want to apply this logic; it gets real gross real quick.
Is Rockstar US? I considered the red dead series a quite hellacious RPG. Is GTA an RPG?
Rockstar is a US company, but the developers of GTA are Rockstar North in the UK. They used to be their own company developing GTA, when they were bought by Rockstar.
Red Dead is definetly an american game though.
Rockstar is a British company that has a studio in the US but they’re not an American company. Rockstar North is their original studio.
I have not played Red Dead but GTA is definitely not an RPG. It’s an action adventure and at least from what I’ve seen from the former I’d expect it to be the same.
Red Dead is just GTA with horses and a way better story. Calling it an RPG is a massive stretch.
What elements that you consider core to the genre is it missing?
Generally, RPGs involve character progression through stats, and RDR really doesn’t have that. It’s an action adventure game with an emphasis on storytelling.
For an Action RPG, decision making, conversation options, and of course a skill trees are necessary. Basically you need to be able to shape your character to “play a role”.
The publisher is but the studio that makes GTA games is in Scotland. Not sure about Red Dead. Probably a collaborative effort between their studios, most of which are in the UK.
I was going to say Horizon Zero Dawn, but Guerilla Games is Dutch.
hzd isn’t an rpg
I’d say it’s just barely an Action RPG. But there’s no real decision making in the story, or even an attempt at it like Mass Effect, The Witcher, Cyberpunk.
Other than the fact that it is. It’s even got a skill tree and experience points…
and you can get all those skills and will before you even finish the game there’s no choices in the story or even how the character fights really everyone playing hzd gets the same experience those are rpg elements but rpg elements doesn’t make a game an rpg it’s just triple a game design needing to have everything from every game ever
Bro, you’re wrong, cope.
mirrors edge is in first person and you can shoot a gun is it an fps
Blocked, stupid or trolling.
inb4 someone assumes First Person Shooter is defined specifically as a first person game where you can shoot
The name of the genre is the same as the definition, right?
Role playing game just means it’s a game where you play a role, right?
Wasn’t Gary Gygax American?
