A humanitarian aid official who attended the meeting said Grande noted that Israel is one in a “tight circle of very few allies” that the U.S. will not oppose, nor will it “hold anything back that they want.”

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    I’m trying to understand why they(we) are such a close ally. There is nearly no benefit to America supporting Israel. They are not good. Israel has stolen too much land and murdered too many civilians for greed.

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      I’m trying to understand why they(we) are such a close ally

      You won’t like Biden’s answer…

      Biden has partly credited his pro-Israel world view to his father, who insisted following World War Two and the Nazi Holocaust there was no doubt of the justness of establishing Israel as a Jewish homeland in 1948.

      https://www.reuters.com/world/us/i-am-zionist-how-joe-bidens-lifelong-bond-with-israel-shapes-war-policy-2023-10-21/

      He’s said multiple times there is no line Israel could cross that would result in any less support from him.

      He’s not operating on any kind of logic, in his eyes Israel = good, and that’s as deep as he will ever think of it.

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      It is unfortunately simple. The feelings of religion and sympathy in the wake of WW2 completely aside, strategically they offer the US a strong military ally in the Middle East, including playing host to several military bases. That’s a very rare thing in that region.

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        IMO this is the real answer. Geopolitical stability in the region, at the cost of letting Israel do whatever it wants including genociding the Palestinians. It makes me sick, but I have a sinking feeling that if we allowed the entire region become unstable, that would make me sick as well.

        “Quagmire” is a word for a reason.

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          What stability though? They’ve been there since being established after WW2 and it’s been an extremely volatile region the entire time.

          It would at least be a Faustian bargain if they were doing horrible atrocities but that’s just the price you pay for the Middle East being a peaceful and stable area of the world… but the Middle East has been in crisis for my entire life, so what am I missing?

          Also America has the ability to project its power in the region without Israel, so what exactly is there to gain?

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            Stability doesn’t mean “peace” it means “things don’t get worse.” And I think we both know that things could be A LOT worse.

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          Not in Gaza or Lebanon. Syria maybe. Iran if they get that far.

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        Unless the US puts boots on the ground, which would require a draft to have enough troops, which would end the presidency of whoever does it, Israel isn’t annexing anything outside Palestine. They can’t even take Lebanon, and I like Lebanon and all, but they’re not a real military force to be reckoned with.

        It would take Iran a day to cleanse occupied Palestine of its Nazi problem, if they thought the US wouldn’t nuke them on Israels behalf.