Reposting this since the original got deleted (except on the instances where it was federated in time) when my beehaw account was erased alongside a week worth of data a few months ago.
Came across the image and thought “why not post again?”, I don’t know if I still stand by the meme, but frankly I don’t care…
I just want to schizopost
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I used to be in camp AVIF, but I’ve changed my tune to supporting JXL after running some of my own tests. The main things that caused me to change my mind were the better compression ratio, progressive loading, and lossless conversion from JPEG. Those last two in particular are very useful features which AVIF simply doesn’t have an answer to.
AVIF is a video format masquerading as an image format, and while that’s not a bad thing, it’s definitely not as good as a purpose-built image format.
JXL rocks! Its so sad that some browser vendors are seemingly trying to kill it. It has basically all the features you could want for a JPG replacement and also has a reference implementation that implemented all that stuff as free software and with good documentation without any patent bullshit attached.
Give me JXL or give me death
I only do SVG 😎
Based, I’m having a lot of fun with Inkscape
😃I have coded my SVG using VScode with a plugin which renders it in real time (and stole some paths from other SVG)
Interesting, link to the extension?
By the way, is that actually efficient or just a challenge? The editor result always seems so long and complex that I never bothered to tryI had do design a local user interface for an embedded system and our design language is very rectangular 😂 so just a bunch and with some CSS for color / font etc The icons, where designed by an external partner who works wit Illustrator where I just saved as SVG, snitched the and placed it with transform translate(x.x,y.y) and scale(z.z). I just searched SVG in VS code and took the first best one, let me check, Wait Yes, I think it’s this (I’m a bit sick, so not at my PC): https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=jock.svg
Ohh ok, that is more reasonable. And that extension looks insane!
Link to Open VSX for us Codium plebs😄thank you for the link. I have that on my personal PC 😇 for work I have to use windows on a surface book 3. I’ll get an upgrade in 1 to 2 years and can buy this book for private use. Hope it makes a good linux tablet 😃 looking forward to that
Yep! I heard Surface products are pretty great though with some touch/stylus quirks I think
I’m curious about the “not encumbered by patents”, in the last thread someone pointed out that the base JXL implementation has a Google patent too, which I found odd, but it is there, so what about that?
Both of them are royalty-free.
Yes, the title refers to AVIF in fact
AV1 is at least better than or comparable to H.265
True, great technology, not so great backing corporations.
I believe that, intuitively, AVIF beats JXL when it’s about animated images, so technically they even complete each other in a way
I don’t understand any of those at all. Anyone got an idiot’s guide?
Someone linked this: https://jpegxl.info/why-jxl.html
I think explains well why it’s good, here’s a comparison linked from within that websiteTL;DR If in the past, to achieve the best file size to image quality efficiency, you had to choose to use PNG for clean graphics (like to export simple vector drawings, text, etc.) where boundaries are clearly defined; and JPEG for photography where the subject is very complex (think trees, rich landscapes, etc.); now you can scrap all that and use JPEG-XL to deliver all kinds of images on the web.
It’s not a new thing, in fact WebP (literally Web Picture) and AVIF want to do the same, but they’re simply worse in performance and both are Google’sbitchcreation, where AVIF (and AV1, which is it’s “parent” codec) has some patent shenanigans that could in theory stifle competition, while JPEG-XL supposedly doesn’t have that crapWebP is more On2’s creation and AVIF created a lot of people ouside of Google. Google’s codec is WebP2 and it is crap.
has some patent shenanigans that could in theory stifle competition
No, it’s just MPEG-LA being patent trolls.
Good info, i don’t know much about MPEG-LA, I guess they have a bad history from what you say though haha
Long life to jpegxl
Does Google also have a chokehold on AV1? I thought it was an industry wide project?
Does Google also have a chokehold on AV1?
Not by itself
I thought it was an industry wide project?
It is, it’s just that it is based on some patents held by Google as well as other patents in the hands of other companies
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Not in terms of compression
