Did Kießling score the goal or his wife?
Yo, im sure i remember this happening, i remember them all going over to the net after and looking at it and laughing in amazement, then the goal was reversed. Right? Vid ends with goal allowed.
Honest question, is VAR limited by a certain set of circumstances for disallowing or allowing a goal?
For the PL they also say Checking goal - Onside/Offside/Foul/Handball etc.
Can they disallow a goal because the net was broken?
Wonder what VAR would have done with the beach ball goal against Liverpool
Yes, it is limited partially by the IFAB rules around resetting play, and possibly by internal league VAR rules (although I can’t think of any off the top of my head).
It’s stupid, but it is what it is. This is unrelated to your question, but VAR needs a basic overhaul to become “results” oriented. Get the right result at (nearly) any cost. Someone smarter than me can determine what nearly means in that context.
So you have to grant a goal two minutes later, big deal. What’s more of a travesty - granting a goal after 60 seconds of inconsequential play because you realised the mistake, or completely ignoring a valid goal because of the 60 seconds? In my opinion, the integrity of the sport is upheld even if a retroactive decision is taken provided it is done as timely as possible.
If you have to inform the players at halftime that a huge mistake was made and the goal was granted, so be it. It wouldn’t undermine anything. If a goal is scored in the interim, count both. I don’t know, I’m not the expert. But I’ve never understood the rationale behind “once the mistake is made, we have to live with it”. It’s arbitrary and we don’t HAVE to accept that as a fact of life. Set some simple rules around this and get everyone to realise it will happen, and voila, an instant reduction in controversy.
What about Lampard’s ghost goal against Germany at the 2010 FIFA World Cup?
That moment was one of the most prominent examples in favour of introducing the goal line technology, not VAR.
Kinda wish it happened 1966 :/
I always disliked how much people criticised Kiessling for letting it count.
I’ve been playing in some goals recently that have a lot of holes in the side and it’s really hard to tell sometimes. Even when you’re pretty sure whether it was a goal or not the other people there disagree.
Obviously he thought he missed, but then when you see the ball in the net, you would go huh, it went in - because what are the chances a Bundesliga goal has a hole in it big enough for a ball?I always disliked how much people criticised Kiessling for letting it count.
Kiessling didn’t let it count, the referee did. Kiessling obviously knew what had happened and it looked like he told the referee but he allowed it anyway. There’s nothing more Kiessling could have done.
Kießling followed the ball and threw up his hands in horror and directly realized that it didn’t go in. When Brych later confronted him he didn’t admit it.
it looked like he told the referee
We don’t know what he told the ref.
Seems pretty unlikely he’d be sure enough to say for sure that wasn’t a goal. He looks away from the ball right as it hits the side netting, and then he looks really confused that everyone else thinks it was a goal. Kind of hard to be sure of anything there.
Such a bizarre circumstance.