• GuamZX@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    Any graph that talks about foreign TV deals available? Serie A gets 205 million each year from them, I’d like to compare with the other leagues

    • SanSilver@alien.topB
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      11 months ago

      The numbers I found were: PL £1.4bn, LaLiga £815m, Serie A £337, Bundesliga £218m, Ligue 1 £73m. If you add domestic and foreign, you get the PL at £3.1bn, LaLiga £1.9bn, Bundesliga £1.3bn, Serie A £1.2bn and Ligue 1 with £1.1bn.

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    11 months ago

    Should be noted that these are domestic broadcast deals only.

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      11 months ago

      Wait how can the English fans pay so much more than the other fans from their respective countries to justify this difference in revenue domestically? I thought the premier league had an edge solely due to the much larger foreign market

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        11 months ago

        Na, this was always built on us being rinsed first and foremost. I have no idea why we accept this, the only reason Germany doesn’t make as much is because they won’t accept this shit.

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          11 months ago

          There’s a lot of shit German fan’s won’t just accept. I’ve found that a lot of English fans think that every other nation is jealous of their league but that’s definitely not the case in Germany. They want their league to avoid the mistakes of English football while other nations try to copy it.

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        11 months ago

        It costs £740 annually to subscribe to all the services currently showing PL matches, so about €900. That’s not an insurmountable expenditure for someone with a decent job in any European country, although it certainly stings a bit.

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          11 months ago

          a bit.

          to put it lightly. Its a fairly insane amount, especially given that its basically the equivalent of every streaming platform i can think of

        • Amargaladaster@alien.topB
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          11 months ago

          900 per year is insane to me. Yes, it’s affordable for a lot of people, but I can’t imagine paying that much just out of principle.

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            11 months ago

            This. I live in Serbia and I pay 10 euros a month approximately for sports channel that broadcasts literally every PL game lmao I know my country is poor, but paying that amount of money to watch domestic league is wild

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              11 months ago

              Tbf that gets you more than just sports, will get you the whole of sky broadcasting.

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                11 months ago

                Wow, as if there are so many things at sky that are interesting other than football.

        • CrowCreative6772@alien.topB
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          11 months ago

          In Italy It got worse Dazn was already too expensive for the quality it offer but now they have increase they price even more.

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          11 months ago

          As an American, that’s pretty cheap.

          I’m paying about $170 a month for the cable package and three streaming services necessary.

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            11 months ago

            The full sky package + TNT + amazon prime I believe works it more than $170 in the UK, although you do get the other sky sports channels and probs Internet with it . I’m not sure how much they charge the pubs for it , but there’s a lot of sports pubs in the uk .

            I don’t know many who even pay for it all, most of my mates have a dodgy firestick

        • Extreme-Self5491@alien.topB
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          11 months ago

          20quid a month for all sky sports on nowtv. Quite regularly offer those deals. Thats about 75% of the matches covered. And you only need it for 10 months.

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    11 months ago

    Imagine being soo shit, Bundesliga is making more money domestically than you, Tebas, at it again being shit.

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      11 months ago

      Population:

      • Germany: 83m
      • Spain: 47m

      GDP per capita

      • Germany: 51.200 US Dollars

      • Spain: 30.100 US Dollars

      And considering that pretty much fussball is popular in Germany as much as futbol in Spain I’d be very surprising if it would be otherwise.

      Considering the german domestic TV deal is for Buli and 2.Buli then I’m still quite surprised that Bundesliga is on pair with La Liga given both Germany’s population and GDP are almost TWICE as Spain which means there are MORE people willing to watch football and willing to spend MORE money given their higher salaries compared to Iberia.

      The real standing for the domestic TV rights considering the quality of the league, GDP, population and soccer popularity in a certain country the standing should be: EPL >> Bundesliga > Serie A = Spain = Ligue 1

      Well done Javier Tebas.

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        11 months ago

        You’re not taking into account the whole Latin American market that shares the same language. Not as much to do with Tebas as simply sharing the same language as a much bigger marker. Same can be said about the Premiee League.

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            11 months ago

            These deals are domestic league contracts, as in not including international games. Go look at source one on the wikipedia sources for the chart. Pague 75 Inthink it was has the chart with the length and revenues for domestic and international broadcasting and the numbers add to the total on thr Wikipedia charts.

      • Rickcampbell98@alien.topB
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        11 months ago

        Actually German “should” be first, it’s a bigger economy but people won’t accept being gouged there, its for no lack of loving football if anything I would say the opposite. The culture over here accepts this bullshit way too easily and its horrible.

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        11 months ago

        It’s also only 18 teams and fewer matches for a league that is supposed to be less popular. I see what you are saying though.

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          11 months ago

          the question is why the difference isn’t bigger in favor of the Bundesliga, considering Germany is way bigger (+35 millions) and way richer (three times the GDP).

          popularity kicks in with the foreign deals, which puts the spanish league way ahead of the Bundesliga.

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            11 months ago

            I’m guessing language has a lot to do with it. All of the latin american language is pulled towards the Spanish league.

            • Tiny-Appointment9917@alien.topB
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              11 months ago

              I’m sure the guy is talking about why Germany isn’t further ahead of la liga in the graph since Germany is a richer country therefore people would more likely pay more for football domestically. Which the graph is demonstrating domestic license, so no matter how many countries speak Spanish, Germany ought to be further ahead of LaLiga by that logic regardless

    • A_Round_of_Gwent@alien.topB
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      11 months ago

      You’re talking as if the Bundesliga is some amateur league lmao.

      Also I think the fact that Germany, as a country, is richer and more populated than Spain might contribute to this, although it’s true that La Liga could be up there with the PL if they actually took advantage from the Messi-Ronaldo era to get a better TV deal

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    11 months ago

    Somebody needs to show Tebas this the next time he starts waffling about Prem being “the doped up league”. Having a very beneficial TV deal isn’t “doping”, it’s just having an attractive product and good negotiators…

    • Rickcampbell98@alien.topB
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      11 months ago

      It’s called rinsing your fanbase and getting away with it, I genuinely don’t know why we accept paying these prices. From what I’ve previously seen though Spain is domestically similar in that regard, its just a much smaller economy.

      So Spain will never be able to make as much domestically but i won’t champion people getting absolutely ripped off and gouged as a positive for this or any league.

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    11 months ago

    Now…guess what sort of deal the absolute geniuses who run Scottish Football managed to secure us?

    Starting in 2024 - Our deal is worth £150m - OVER 5 YEARS!!

    £30m a season for 5 years split between 12 teams.

    The genuis of Neil Doncaster, who proudly negotiated this deal and refused to tender the rights for an offer so he accepted the first deal offered to him and made a fat bonus on top.

    He is also the guy that wrote a 2 year Notice period into his own contract if he was to ever resign or get £800k to terminate his contract.

    This is how pathetic and corrupt the people running Scottish football are.

  • PsYcHoSeAn@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    “DAZN - all matches”

    Living the dream in italy.

    I doubt that they gotta pay like 80 bucks per month to watch what they want?

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      11 months ago

      they are free to charge whatever they want as much as i am free to ride the wild see, cuz a pirate is free!

      all joke aside, i bought a yearly subscription to DAZN, the quality was always abysmalv(Low bitrate for the videos, app crashing, video stopping mid action) so i opted for less legal free option and can watch the matches with a higher quality. If my connection can handle to watch full HD videos with a VPN, then it should be able to play the fucking DAZN, THAT I FUCKING PAID FOR!!!

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        11 months ago

        I know those options too and they have become really bad, too. The first 10 options are all using the same source so if one isnt working, none are. Sometimes theyre 5 minutes behind, sometimes they say its game X but actually all streams are a different game…

        So its not like that life is good either. Id gladly pay 50 bucks per month if it was all games in the same spot. But thats wishful thinking these days

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      11 months ago

      Great to see at least one that has all matches on a single broadcaster. Too bad DAZN has become worse (ads, lags) and more expensive too

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    11 months ago

    Why do serie A teams always act like they’re broke?
    It’s the third richest league.

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      11 months ago

      TBF, everyone outside the Premier League, Real, Barcelona and PSG is kinda broke. If we are talking about straight up financial problems, the big teams fucked up a lot of decisions in past years and they’re paying the toll now, and the smaller teams see a much reduced slice of that cake than the bigger teams, so they take less money than you’d think.

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        11 months ago

        Real and especially Barcelona don’t have that much money and even PSG if you only look at the club is losing a lot of money. Only middle table teams are sometimes not broke.

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      11 months ago

      Broke is relative and one always strives for the top, compared to the Premier league, Bayern, Real and Barca we are poor.

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      11 months ago

      high debt, low Stadium revenenuees, and overall poor market value abroad

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        11 months ago

        And also no help from the state or city major, on the countrary they will try everything to stop the clubs to build a new stadium ( really hated Virginia Raggi useless for the city and for the club)