• jm9987690@alien.topB
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    Ronaldo only scoring his 50th goal at the age of 29 is crazy to still end up the highest

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      C. Ronaldo has over 400 goals after turning 30. He has scored more goals after turning 30 than most of the best strikers during their whole career… (Ronaldo, Raul, Van nistelrooy etc…)

    • TheyWillCowerr@alien.topB
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      Ronaldo after 30: over 400+ goals, 2 Ballon D’ors, 2x FIFA best, Euro 2016, championships in Spain and Italy, three Champions League back to back

      Messi after 30: 250+ goals, 3 Ballon D’ors, World Cup 2022 win, 1x FIFA best.

      Most players start going downhill after 30 these mfs doubled up on their individual awards and achievements

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        But Messi and Ronaldo caseses seem different.

        Ronaldo doubled down and become even better after 30, Messi kept a high an extraordinary level but he was far from his best (even if he managed to lead ARgentina to the WC)

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          Unless you purely compare stats, Ronaldo pre-30 is better than Ronaldo post-30. What he has going over his pre-30 days is winning. 3 b2b2b Champions Leagues and the Euro 2016 means his post-30s are greater than his pre-30s, but purely in terms of overall player performance, 06-14 were his peak. But with all that he has a GOAT level career just considering his post 30 career

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            Maybe improved is not the word, but my impression is that he become more decisive and clutch. Maybe this is coincidental with the departure of Guardiola and decrease of Barcelona’s dominance which left more room to Madrid and CR to claim the throne.

            In any case, I think the point I was trying to make is understood and that Messi and Cristiano’s careers are not really parallels despite their huge longevity and consistency

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    205 caps is mad, that record will probably stay for a loong time. (if it is a record, im not sure but you’d think it is)

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      He was going toe to toe with a player from Kuwait I think, but seems the latter slowed down.

      EDIT: his name is Bader Al-Mutawa and he has 196 caps but the last was in June 2022, probably won’t reach Ronaldo.

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    1 year ago

    I do think international goals hold less weight these days, due to the amount of games played. Especially European nations playing the likes of San Marino, Luxembourg, Andorra etc more often.

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      49 goals behind Ronaldo and he’s already 30, he needs to score more international goals than Bobby Charlton did in his entire career between now and retirement to do that and that’s only if Ronaldo doesn’t score another one

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        Bringing Bobby Charlton who wasn’t a striker into this is just silly.

        It all depends if he can keep up his current form this year. If he plays for 5 more years roughly, it’s 10 goals a year which is a big ask but not out of the question.

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    Imagine one country in AFC was an elite national team for many decades of the likes of France, Germany in the past, Spain etc… We would have seen a 200 goals scorer given how many levels below most Asian teams are. But now AFC is making huge progress with Japan, South Korea, Uzbekistan slowly, etc…

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        They just beat England in the rd of 16 knockout game of the U17 WC. Yesterday was the match I think

        And Uzbekistan is basically set to qualify for the next WC with the increase in slots. The AFC getting only 4/5 slots in all the previous WCs basically kept Uzbekistan out of contention from final qualification. But this year they seem an even better team than any time before and with that U17 lot putting on the performance that they have yesterday, they only seem to be getting better with regards to their future chances too

        I’d liken them to the Atletico Madrid teams we’ve seen over the past decade. Physical, defensively solid, potential to launch some solid counter attacks, decent finishing across their attacking ranks. But yes, Imo, its their ability to not give an inch as a collective to their opposition that is their biggest strength. They’ll latch onto the opposition when they have the ball and harass them into giving it up basically.

        We (India) are clubbed with them, Australia and Syria in the Asian Cup group. Our U17 lads also faced this current U17 team earlier this year in the final round for the U17 WC qualification. They absolutely got our boys mentally done for 75-80 mins out of the 90 with their physical game and got a 1-0 win iirc. So a handful of us on the Indian football sub have followed their recent results and it’s not an over exaggeration to say that they’re right behind Iran, South Korea and Japan with regards to overall quality.

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    Ronaldo and Lewandowsky have like 200+ international goals each but not even two at the World Cup. Flat track merchants.

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      People here don’t like to hear it, but it’s simply so much easier to get goals now than 20-40 years ago.

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      Scoring in Europe is much easier than SA due to numerous bad countries, and most of the all time great forwards came from SA (Messi, Pele, R9, Rivaldo, Maradona, Ronaldinho, Suarez, Milito, Forlan) so yeah.

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        Idk why you’re getting downvoted, you’re right. If the likes of Messi and Neymar regularly played against the likes of Andorra and Malta, they’d have significantly more goals than they do now.

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          Neymar is the most ridiculous one on this list. He isnt even a striker and has an insane goal per game ratio

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      You laugh, but if he maintains his current trajectory, he will be number one in about five years’ time.

      Man’s got a goals per game ratio that Ali Daei himself would be proud of.

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          I mean, he’s just turned 30, and he needs 46 more goals to overtake him. Ronaldo probably can’t keep going past the next euros you would have thought, so maybe the target will end up around 50.

          Lukaku’s averaging about 8 goals per year, and it’s not like there are any red hot young Belgian strikers in place to surpass him. So if he keeps going past the next world cup, then there is a small chance; weirder things have happened.

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            and it’s not like there are any red hot young Belgian strikers

            Well, there is Openda who is very much on an upwards trajectory. I could see him take Lukaku’s starting spot when Lukaku gets a bit older and Openda gets even better. But even in that scenario, Lukaku will definitely still be in the squad and get playing time.

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            Lukaku has been playing regularly since he was 17 or something, he doesn’t have that much time ahead of him. Don’t see him being able to score 50 more international goals in his life.

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              He’s been playing for the Belgian NT since he was 17 and moved from Anderlecht to Chelsea when he was only 18. He was only 16 when he played with Anderlecht in the Europa League. He had his breakthrough seasons at West Brom and Everton when he was only 19 and 20 and was only 23 when he broke Everton’s topscorer record and finished second behind Kane in the seasonal topscorer list (who by the way is the same age). He was also the first non-English player ever to reach 50 PL goals before 23.

              Lukaku seems like he’s been around for ages because he has been around for ages. Lukaku is that rare type of player that was already elite at an age where most players are still looking for their breakthrough.

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      The craziest thing is that he has around 16 goals in his first 50 games and has been averaging around one goal per game since 2016 now.

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      No harm but look at some of the teams he gets to play against in qualifying games. With Hazard and KDB and others of that quality around you it isn’t too surprising. Also helps that he’s a top class striker

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      Without trying to offend anyone but, EU qualifiers have a ton of really low level punching bags (we just seen France beat someone 14-0) and that is just not possible in other confederations

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        It’s very possible also in Asia and North America, it’s just South America which is unlucky (and partly also Africa, but they have Djbouti and Seychelles)

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    Chitalu’s and Dahari’s deaths are both very sad. Chitalu died at 45 on 27th April 1993 when a plane carrying the Zambian national team crashed in the ocean, 30 people total died. Dahari was diagnosed with motor neurone disease and died 3 years later of muscular dystrophy at age 37 on 11th July 1991.

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    Cristiano Ronaldo now has more goals for the Portuguese National team that any portuguese player has of appearances, with the exception of himself, Pepe and João Moutinho.

    THIS IS SUCH A MENTAL STAT!

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    Commenting here just to mention our nation’s hero name Mokhtar Dahari the supermokh!

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      Shared a pitch with Maradona once. Pretty insane to imagine that, for us now.

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      It’s honestly fitting that only Ronaldo, and probably Messi, will get to that number, at least for a few years.

      Top two goalscorers as well, even more probable.