International editor says he doesn’t ‘feel particularly bad about’ his inaccuracies

BBC’s international editor Jeremy Bowen admits he ‘got it wrong’ in his coverage saying the Gaza Al-Alhi hospital was “flattened” (it was never even bombed), but still said he “doesn’t regret one thing” about his reporting and doesn’t feel particularly bad.

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    7 months ago

    His inaccuracies: blaming Israel for the al-Shifa missile attack, and referring to the hospital as, “flattened.”

    I’ve seen people repeating these inaccuracies constantly on Lemmy.

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        His claim of it being flattened caused the BBC to report that it was likely Israel who did it because they were the only ones who had ordinance powerful enough to level a hospital:

        In the first story about the hospital on the BBC on Oct 17, correspondent Jon Donnison suggested Israel was behind the blast. Speaking shortly after 8pm on BBC News, he said: “It’s hard to see what else this could be, really, given the size of the explosion, other than an Israeli airstrike or several airstrikes.”

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      I admit, I was surprised at how many people are indifferent to the truth (at best) regarding this conflict. I know some people in real life who see a lot of antisemitism in modern American society and I used to think they were paranoid but now I’m not sure what else could be motivating this sort of motivated reasoning.

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        The problem is, that Israel made it relatively easy to fall for these stories by doing similar things for real in the past.

        So you’ve got a credible source (BBC) reporting something that’s not really unheard of (i.e. kind of plausible) and that’s happening to align with what you’ve already suspected. Bam, rumor is born.

        BTW, you had the same mechanism shortly after the attacks with the “Hamas beheaded babies” stories.

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        You don’t know what could possibly cause people to have an anti-Israel bias other than antisemitism? Maybe a history book?

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    Also this title sucks ass, not alluding to what was wrong and leaving your mind to fill it in

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    Welcome to Whose Truth is it Anyway?, where the news is made up and the facts don’t matter.

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    To be clear Bowen did not from my recollection say that the strike was from Israeli. He did, however, incorrectly say that the hispital had been “flattened” based in drone footage he was looking at on screen.

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      I mean technically yes but it’s one of those things where you’re saying Israel did it without saying it directly. Its really not much better.

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        No. The programme as a whole said responsibility hadn’t been determined. The news was breaking as Bowen was on air - he didn’t say anything about responsibility

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          I think I just have to agree to disagree. It’s a simple philosophy problem in my head

          “Hospital got flattened”

          “Hamas doesn’t have munitions to flatten hospital”

          “Israel flattened the hospital”

          If you’re reporting about a flattened hospital in Gaza, you’re tactically supporting the idea Israel did it by simply reporting that a hospital got flattened. It also shouldn’t suprise you that’s how many people online ran with it.

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            The report of a massive explosion outside the hospital would have lead the same people who made assumptions about Israel being responsible to assume that Israel was responsible.

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              Yeah it would lead neutral observers to beleive Israel flattened a hospital since they are the only ones immediately in the region with the munitions to do so. Both things can be true

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                But there was a massive explosion outside the hospital. Are you really saying that that shouldn’t have been reported with the caveat ‘we don’t know who is responsible’ because people would have assumed it was Israel ?

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                  No, im saying the reporting the explosion in the parking lot of a hospital as “flattening the hospital” was irresponsible and it’s no wonder it would make people think Israel blew it up by simply stating those things as facts. It was irresponsible to report it this way, especially since there was no evidence to suggest that was the case.

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      And Trump did not tell the traitors to stormthe building, amiright?

      Jesus, the way you Hamas bootlickers refuse to listen to anything that disagrees with your agenda reminds me of the MAGA crowd. In fact it is the same thing, just on the left.

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        I was correcting a factual inaccuracy. If you can find anything in my post history that suggests that I support Hamas, then feel free to point it out. Otherwise - zip it.

        I am, however a fan of the BBC - and while it is far from perfect, I’m happy to defend it where the Telepgraph gets it wrong.