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    1 year ago

    If they are so damn safe why i can’t build one in my backyard?

    • Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      1 year ago

      Because the radioactive bits need to be handled by trained and trusted personnel because if those bits fall into the wrong hands they can be used for some horrible shit

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        1 year ago

        so are you saying that it is not safe?

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          If I install solar panels and the inverters incorrectly I could potentially harm or kill myself and others. Therefore solar isn’t safe.

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            But then why you can build these in your garden and not nuclear?

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              with the risk of feeding the troll, maybe this will sway some fence sitters from adopting this argument

              because we allow people to shave (some even do it with straight razors, too - dangerous shite) themselves and others with little to no oversight but we don’t let them perform surgery without proper training that takes a decade or so to master. should that make surgery illegal?

              also, if you want to talk safety for home implements just look at the number of people that die due to carbon monoxide poisoning (or sometimes explosions) because of improperly set up heating at home. did you know it’s illegal to operate on your own gas pipes without proper permits? yup, you need to be qualified for that so you don’t rig your house into an IED

              or if you want to have some fun, play around with some improperly discharged fridge capacitors, and see what that gets you. yet, you still have a fridge, I’d wager. by your logic, if it’s allowed in a home, it’s safe, right?

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                My hairdresser was disassociating due to PTSD and stuck her hand into the mower blade because it was gunked up and not moving. She forgot to turn it off and sliced her hand up, and can no longer do her job.

                Should we ban mowers?

                My uncle in law came off a motorbike and was sliced apart by a guardrail, and died.

                Should we ban motorbikes? Guardrails? Both?

                Some things come with risk but bring greater reward. We need to weigh risk vs reward, and in the balance, nuclear comes out much further ahead - as long as it built and maintained to a high standard. It’s also much, much safer and less harmful than the current options like coal.

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                Nobody is going to prevent you from performing surgery on yourself at home, neither to play around with fridge capacitors.

                Now try to build a nuclear reactor in your garden

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                  I guarantee you if people found out that you were trying to operate on yourself in your home, someone is going ro rightfully try to stop you.

                  And to think that there is no one telling you not to and not trying to prevent you from electrocution is asinine.

                  But by all means stick your finger in a light socket, but if the breaker doesn’t pop and you drop, you were informed it was a lethal choice.

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                The guy above is wrong, but this argument is as bad. Or at least incomplete. Here, I’ll fix it for you:

                “Because crayon eaters like you would spread dust of nuclear fuel. Or assume fuel is crayon and eat it as well.”

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                  Well, I’ll go with incomplete, as the second option you describe is what I was alluding to.

                  Silly me, thinking crayon eaters could extrapolate.

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              Such a dumb question.

              Building a nuclear power plant requires the collaboration of physicists, nuclear + electrical + civil engineers, etc…

              Solar requires a certified electrician.

              We know how to build nuclear safely, it just requires a lot more effort and oversight, therefore is not something you can build at home.

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                so if i hire up an elecricial and a civil engineer i can build it in my garden?

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          Everything can be unsafe if in the wrong hands

          There are different degrees of safety associated with all things and we as a society have deemed nuclear power plants and their fuel as something that should only be in the hands of those trained and trusted in how to use it

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          Have you ever been in a coal fired plant? Or even easier, been around a coal furnace for home heating? What about industrial environments?

          That shit isn’t safe.

          There are different levels of safety, personal reactors are on the other side of a cultural shift.

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        If planes are safer than cars, why can’t I fly a Boeing 797-9 Dreamliner?

        Because perhaps they are not