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    There’s just as much the CIA can patch, Wikipedia still provide a good account of famous historical events and plenty cross links, you can search for yourself and read the individual history of many who died on gulags or that got send there. Not even the CIA can spin history 360 degrees

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MKUltra

    If you have even better sources to wikipedia that’s good but your link redirect to reddit and vague articles and even to wikipedia itself

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      For starters you could read actual socialist theory but I know you won’t. If you’re truly acting in good faith, give youtuber Hakim a listen. Or The Deprogram podcast. Or Second Thought. They have various videos covering a multitude of starter* topics and they provide sources with their claims.

      Edit: if you’re looking for insights on how the CIA does spin history 180 degrees (360 is a circle, btw, you’d end up at the same point) then give The Jakarta Method a read.

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        For starter you could stay on topic

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          ??? I am staying on topic. I’m giving you all these suggestions to check out. Or did you not expect an actual answer?

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              i love when liberals pull the commie brainwash card, as if we dont already live in a capitalist dominated world where people are taught that capitalism is the only viable economic system. Be it in a TV-series, in the News, in the Radio, in documentaries…pretty much every media-outlet when mentioning socialism treats it as a failed, murderous joke and nothing else…it is presented to us, without explanation most of the time, that socialism is evil, undemocratic, killed 100 Gorbachovillian people and that capitalism is the only economic system that “works”. We are not brainwashed you are the one feeding off liberal propaganda

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                Whenever “brainwashing” comes up, I’m reminded of this article: https://redsails.org/masses-elites-and-rebels/

                The writer uses the term “licensing”. Which I think is appropriate. We can show them that their entire society is propaganda, but they will brush it off as if it’s not proving anything, then embrace the term propaganda when it’s not part of their embedded culture. “Licensing”, because the libs and america have a license to do bad things, even while judging others for doing those same things.

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                Look at yourself and how you are talking. You are the most brainwashed of them all

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                  What are you even rambling on about? You’re beginning to sound like those tin foiled doomsday fetish believers, “I am truthpilled, you’re just soyjacks who are brainwashed!”

                  Grow up, you’re not arguing or even discussing, what’s your point? That we are brainwashed? Yet you regularly cite works from sources which are long been debunked.

                  Zero political awareness, read something then come back here, no we won’t engage if you act like a child.