They would disagree because “lots of people are liberals.” Which is, ironically, a common defense a lot of cults use to justify why they aren’t a cult.

The “Call centre” script is pretty fascinating though, reminds me a lot of creationists. You can show them evidence of transitional fossils, biology experiments demonstrating evolution in a lab, it doesn’t matter. They’ll ask for specific evidence, then when presented with it, find some excuse to ignore it, like tone policing or attacking a source for being “illegitimate” or “biased” without even reading it. And when they can’t do that, they’ll just ignore the responses and only interact with the people hurling insults because they can dismiss that much more easily than a reasonable argument.

That’s an interesting idea. I’ve said something similar irl, that there’s a bourgeois script.

There’s no point arguing with someone who goes into it by default. Especially family members. Not everyone uses it, but for those who do, the only end point is an exchange of insults.

Good examples are reactionary TV ‘news’ presenters. They aren’t interested in the argument or evidence, only providing their audience with another example to confirm their pre-existing worldview. There’s always another quip, another reason why they don’t have to consider a new idea. It’s infuriating. But when you can recognise it, you’ll save yourself a lot of intellectual hardship and emotional pain.

>liberalism is just a cult at this point

Had this viewpoint since my Neocon through Third Position days. Still had it by the time I entered communism. Agreed comrade.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Most people approach politics like a religion. Especially liberals have dogmas and anathemas and they can’t explain to you why they hold them as such. They assume these things simply ARE.

Tbf exploding heads is defederated even more extensively than we are, and are much smaller instance than us, a lot of them probably aren’t even aware of exploding heads

I’m honored , honestly it wasn’t even my intention but it’s an added bonus lol

based critical

Rent-free, just as Mao intended

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Good.

Especially the prejudice, it’s always that we need to save Chinese people from their government, it’s always some extension of the white man’s burden couched in softer language

It really is treated as a “sin” to be ignorant of something in the west. Personally, I love not knowing something, because it means I get to learn something, but again, education in the west is treated as “that thing that happens when you’re 6-18 and no other time.” and refuse to ever try to educate themselves as adults.

They know that when the fade passes away, we will still be here, strong. :)

Yes, we aren’t blocked by 2 of the biggest instances. I didn’t mean “half the users”, but every time I see a new instance in a username I go check their blocklist and it seems like ~1/2 the time lemmygrad is blocked. You would be welcome to post here even if you weren’t a socialist, you just can’t post capitalism apologia

There are quite a few socialists over at .world. And some others who aren’t socialists but willing to talk in good faith. It’s nice to see you and them over here.

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I meant like people who regularly post or comment, we have way more lurkers than 300

We must have ADHD

Yes 💁

Ghost of Christmas Yet To Come

Reminds me of https://existentialcomics.com/comic/148

“A spectre is haunting the Young Hegelians: the spectre of my glorious beard.” “I thought we agreed not to do the spectre thing anymore”

Edit: Fixed typo

I still prefer the idea of it being a frightful hobgoblin.

A mischievous little elf who steals power from the capitalists and places it in the hands of the proletariat. The frightful part only applies to capitalists though, because they slowly realize they are losing their grip. Once the hobgoblin was worked it’s mischief, the power that the bourgeoisie once possessed cannot be regained because the workers of the world realize that they actually had the power all along and that frightful hobgoblin merely lifted the veil that had deceived them into thinking otherwise.

Sure

Just remember that internet is a mean, not the end

And all their users don’t realise that the reason those censoring instances look more like Reddit is because Reddit had a campaign to censor all radical speech. It’s not rare because radical speech isn’t popular, it’s rare because it’s hidden and crushed.

Would you talk me briefly through setting up your own instance? Do you just run it when you want to go online or do you need to stay connected with a 24/7 self-hosted server? Don’t answer these questions if it means sharing details that would compromise your security.

There’s some mechanics that need to be sorted out with federation. But I say this while not offering any help to Lemmy, so I’m just ranting and not criticising where the project is right now. They only have so many devs working on it and the founders are doing overtime to bring new features in.

I’m banned from lemmy world apparently which means that lemmy world users who interact on lemmygrad or any other instance will not see my comments, as they won’t be federated (copied over to lemmy world’s database essentially). I can see some problems with that because while I get the principle, it effectively allows instance administrators to determine who can read whom. If you make a friend on another instance too and they get banned or their instance defederated, you’ll lose all contact with them.

Perhaps even worse is that lemmy.world users who come to lemmygrad won’t be able to read my comments, which is just weird because this is my instance. I effectively cannot interact with them even on my home instance! Being an admin too makes it more complicated, like if I posted a pinned message to welcome users from X instance and I’m banned on that instance, they effectively wouldn’t see it. You also don’t get a notif when you’re banned or unbanned, so you would never know.

But I’m sure these will be improved in due time.