Slowly exploring the lemmy ecosystem, since I don’t want to use reddit, and was wondering if selfhosting would be a good idea?

  • KNova@links.dartboard.social
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    2 years ago

    You end up as the ultimate decider on what you federate with. If you join someone else’s community you might not agree with their administration or moderation decisions.

    It’s a fun exercise in system administration, it taught me some new things. It got me interested in Rust as a programming language (not that you need to know that to run an instance - I was just tinkering w: source code)

  • lazynooblet
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    2 years ago

    I’ve created my own instance, just because I wanted to see how and I like self-hosting. The only drawback I found at the moment is that my instance seems several comments/posts behind reality. Wish it was faster, can sometimes be hours behind.

  • frozen@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz
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    2 years ago

    There are two big benefits in my opinion.

    1. Speed and responsiveness. When the bigger instances were (or are) overloaded, my Lemmy experience was still fast and snappy. Content was slower to update for those big instances, but navigating Lemmy itself was still fine, and it gave me an opportunity to engage with some smaller communities.

    2. Control of federation. I decide who to federate with, and as long as I follow other instance and community rules, I won’t get defederated.

    The biggest downside is that I can’t discover new communities organically since I’m the only real active user of my instance. Nothing new gets federated unless I seek it out. But I solve that by using a fediverse indexer every week or so to search for popular or interesting communities.

    • フ卂ㄖ卄乇卂卄@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      But I solve that by using a fediverse indexer every week or so to search for popular or interesting communities.

      Is there a way to automatically federate with other instances? Because I started my own Lemmy instance, and its annoying having to manually go to every community in order to federate with it. (The instance is for my own personal use, so I won’t be opening registrations)

      • frozen@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz
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        1 year ago

        Absolutely, there are two tools I use to do so.

        1. Lemmy Community Seeder - Very customizable tool that by default grabs the top 50 posts in the top 50 communities of the specified instances every few hours.

        2. Lemmony - Less customizable tool that by default grabs pretty much everything. Probably less ideal for larger or more active instances, but my instance has 5 or 6 users, only a couple of which are active, so this tool has been awesome for populating my “All” feed.

        I recommend creating a non-admin bot account and using that for these tools.

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          1 year ago

          Badass thanks for this. I’ve enjoyed kinda keeping my instance more catered but starting to want to at least have more available and just subscribe to the stuff I want to see regularly.

  • chris@l.roofo.cc
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    2 years ago

    Yes. I am immune from the beehaw/lemmy.world drama or similar. I can block instances as I please and I can tinker with my instance.

    • 𝘋𝘪𝘳𝘬@lemmy.ml
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      2 years ago

      I can tinker with my instance.

      I didn’t even find a SANE way to set it up with Docker without having to tinker with the instance. I just want a container not generating half a dozen of other containers and volumes.

      • Fauxreigner@lemmy.fauxreigner.net
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        2 years ago

        A single container for everything gets away from the point of containerization. If you have a single container for lemmy-ui, lemmy backend, and postgres, you need to rebuild that container whenever any one of those applications gets an update, and they could start to interfere with each other. Keeping them in separate containers makes everything a lot cleaner, it just requires something like docker compose to put it all together.

        Did you try the Ansible install? Provided you’re installing onto a supported Debian/Ubuntu version, I found it fairly straightforward.

        • 𝘋𝘪𝘳𝘬@lemmy.ml
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          2 years ago

          I see the container thing a little different. A container should contain all things that are needed to run the containered application (and if it is a web application then exposing one single port). Creating containers should not create multiple other containers ( have no other use for) or networks, or volumes.

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            2 years ago

            They aren’t all one application. Many of the parts can be swapped out for alternatives, shared with other services, or just excluded entirely. They can also be scaled separately which is important because not all of them need to scale at the same rate.

            What you want is explicitly what docker-compose exists to do.

            • 𝘋𝘪𝘳𝘬@lemmy.ml
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              2 years ago

              Many of the parts can be swapped out for alternatives, shared with other services

              Let’s go through it.

              1. proxy: image: nginx:1-alpine I already have one running, why do I now need another one installed als another container exclusively for Lemmy?
              2. pictrs: image: asonix/pictrs:0.4.0-beta.19 I have no other use for this except for Lemmy, why do I need another container just for this application I never heard of?
              3. postgres: image: postgres:15-alpine I have absolutely no use for Postgres. Why do I need to install a database server as container just for being used by Lemmy, and Lemmy only?

              And then, yes, of course, lemmy and lemmy-ui

              So 5 different containers (and 4 volumes, and 2 networks) all set up only for Lemmy, cluttering my setup – not counted in all the volumes, containers, and networks set up by the 3 additional containers.

              And since I’m pinned to specific versions I need to manually check new/changed dependencies when updating Lemmy instead of just rebuilding the container.

              I still see no point in that.

              • underisk@lemmy.ml
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                2 years ago

                It is common to run more than one application in a given server. Nginx, for example, is widely used as a reverse proxy and web server for operating multiple containerized applications on the same server. Postgres is a commonly used database that can potentially be used on hundreds of applications simultaneously. Duplicating them on all containers would just create a mountain of problems and waste resources for no real benefit.

                If all you’re running is lemmy then why are you so upset about containers “cluttering” up things? What is there to clutter up, your docker ps output ? If you want, just pretend the host is itself a container running lemmy (which it might just be, depending on your host!). Alternately, make your own nested container that just does a docker-compose up and pointlessly duplicate all the services you want. Complaining that the container managers don’t do this for you, to the detriment of others who don’t share your specific niche, is just blatantly entitled and absurd.

                • 𝘋𝘪𝘳𝘬@lemmy.ml
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                  2 years ago

                  Nginx, for example, is widely used as a reverse proxy

                  I use it as reverse proxy already. Why do I need to install a reverse proxy for Lemmy?

                  If all you’re running is lemmy then why are you so upset about containers “cluttering” up things?

                  That’s the thing: i don’t.

                  But maybe I should get a real or virtual machine used exclusively for Lemmy and adding its Docker environment to my current Portainer installation.