Well not me but my wife is going on a Scandanavian tour + Finland from Korea next week. Is there anything she should know about before going. I’ve been to Europe myself a few times but not the northern part and I’m just worried bout her even though it is relatively safe up there.

That said, anything she should know good or bad? local customs? warnings? tourist traps?


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The original was posted on /r/sweden by /u/BobbyBacala9980 at 2023-07-25 06:55:33+00:00.

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    BobbyBacala9980 (OP) at 2023-07-25 08:59:02+00:00 ID: jtd12ws


    servers make liveable wages.

    what’s a liveable wage for a server? and minimum wage in Sweden?

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      lyckoslanten at 2023-07-25 09:12:43+00:00 ID: jtd22zm


      Sweden has no minimum wage.

      A quick google says the average wage for male servers is 27500 SEK and for female servers it’s 26500 SEK.

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      LumberJackPanda_13 at 2023-07-25 09:15:16+00:00 ID: jtd29jc


      There is no minimum wage in Sweden but the average salary of a server in Sweden is 27000kr

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        BobbyBacala9980 (OP) at 2023-07-25 10:53:08+00:00 ID: jtda2yn


        How does anyone survive on 2500 USD a year… or are you talkin bout monthly?

        Edit: nvd… someone said monthly… salary is usually annually so i thought it was for the whole year which didnt make sense

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          Klagaren at 2023-07-25 11:09:25+00:00 ID: jtdbjvb


          Oh yeah wages are usually expressed as monthly here, that’s another difference haha

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          borickard at 2023-07-25 16:28:26+00:00 ID: jteigoz


          We always talk about income on a monthly basis if not explicitly mentioned. 🙂

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      cedric3107 at 2023-07-25 09:16:54+00:00 ID: jtd2dwf


      No minimum wage in Sweden. Unions negotiate a common contract for most major industries. Restaurants actually have a rather bad one, but still very liveable.

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      Lokecrafter at 2023-07-25 09:27:43+00:00 ID: jtd2ix5


      There is no minimum wage supported by law here in Sweden. All that is done by workers unions who define minimum and recommended wage based on your age and experience. With that said according to Framtid.se the average salary before taxes of a server is 27 300 SEK.

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      moistbagofdicks at 2023-07-25 09:19:52+00:00 ID: jtd2lt1


      Sweden doesn’t have a set legal minimun wage, but instead rely on sector and industry agreements through collective bargaining which effectively sets a minimum wage. The mean wage of a server today seems to be about 27k swedish per month, so about 3.4k CAD if I am looking at this correctly. Young people under 20 might make quite a bit less though due to said agreements.

      Edit: I dont know the industry but from what I can find the minimum wage for restaurants is about 25k SEK per month. Dont forget to account for different cost of living between here and Canada/Korea.

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      Threaditoriale at 2023-07-25 09:18:47+00:00 ID: jtd36rq


      There is no legal minimum wage. It also varies from region to region. Wages in the three capitals can be nearly double that of the country side. But housing costs are even higher, on the other hand.

      But typically no-one is paid less than 20k SEK per month in Sweden for a full time job, which means around 16k after taxes. Mind you, there is universal health care and free education including universities, so 15–18k per month goes quite a long way. Rent for a small apartment is usually around 5k and food costs for one person is typically 2–5k depending on culinary skills and diet.

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      appalachianmonkeh at 2023-07-25 09:27:51+00:00 ID: jtd46t0


      I disagree with that Sweden has a no tipping culture. Sure, waiters do have a livable wage and unions that up the lowest standard. You’d never be expected to tip at a café or a fast-food place, but you’re certainly expected to tip if you’re going to a more proper restaurant. Not giving a tip at all in a place like that would mean that you’re implying they gave you bad service. You’ll however never be expected to leave the tip in cash. When they expect a tip you’ll be able to enter “the total amount to pay” when you’re paying with card, i.e. the amount you owe for food and the amount you want to tip on top of that

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        Arkeolog at 2023-07-25 10:27:42+00:00 ID: jtd7w76


        Yeah, my mom was a waitress when I was a kid (‘80s and early ‘90s) and she instilled in me that at a sit down restaurant ~10% tip is customary unless the service is really bad. But I’ve noticed that a lot of people around my age and younger don’t tip at all or are very unsure about whether to tip or not.