Many people are hesitant to identify as atheists because of the social stigma they may face, making it hard to pinpoint connections and differences among this group.
If you believe that your religion is the only valid one, and that the others need to go away, then you are as bad as an evangelical. Anti-theists are just the hypocritical mirror image of evangelicals.
You’re talking about how it SHOULD be. Not how it it’s becoming. And besides- I’m talking about internet “atheism,” not atheism. On the Internet, a truism is basically just hatred as smugness. And it’s evolving into a full-on religion.
You’re talking about how it SHOULD be. Not how it it’s becoming.
No, I am talking about both.
Atheism has no tenets, holy books, authority figures, etc. Nor is it developing those things. That applies in person and on the internet. It is in no way a religion. Not playing golf isn’t a sport.
There is a difference between a belief system and a religion. Beleg in the scientific method, for instance, is not a religion. In fact it is the only belief system that seeks out to falsify it’s tenets. Also it presupposes no overbearing creator or idea.
However not all atheists have the same belief system, however non believers in a god, hence a-theos. One you get those involved you’re becoming a religion.
Yeah to be honest I just didn’t feel like digging into the nuances. There is atheism (nonreligious), and there is Atheism (religious). And to be clear, that’s totally fine. I have nothing against a/Atheism, only anti-theism or any other form of religious exclusivism.
Fair enough. It is a bit of nuance your should consider sharing, as some people in this sub feel antagonized by the idea of being labeled religious. I know that might be the exact self-identifying and group type dynamic that you may equate with religion (I would disagree, but that’s another thing).
However putting it as bluntly as you did might not help in getting your point across, and that’s a shame as it is actually an interesting area for discussion.
I get what you’re saying, but it’s not. It’s an ideology. However- with the blind hatred of others who chose to believe differently, they may as well rebrand and become Christianity minus a god.
Atheists just “don’t believe in your thing”. Do you not believe in some things? Do you believe in the Norse gods? There are thousands of gods you probably don’t believe in.
Not true. As a panentheistic polytheist I feel entirely comfortable affirming (or at least being open to) the existence of literally any noncorporeal entity you can talk about. I just might not have any interest in engaging with that entity.
If you believe that your religion is the only valid one, and that the others need to go away, then you are as bad as an evangelical. Anti-theists are just the hypocritical mirror image of evangelicals.
Atheism isn’t a religion bud.
It’s becoming one.
No it isn’t. It has no tenets, no holy books, no authority figures. By definition it is a lack of a religion.
You’re talking about how it SHOULD be. Not how it it’s becoming. And besides- I’m talking about internet “atheism,” not atheism. On the Internet, a truism is basically just hatred as smugness. And it’s evolving into a full-on religion.
No, I am talking about both.
Atheism has no tenets, holy books, authority figures, etc. Nor is it developing those things. That applies in person and on the internet. It is in no way a religion. Not playing golf isn’t a sport.
You still don’t understand what I am saying so I will try and explain it one more time:
What you’re describing is ATHEISM. And you are correct. But…. What I’m talking about is this thing kids are CALLING “atheism.”
It’s not atheism. It’s angsty hatred for cool points. They’ve co-opted the word and made it something else. Actual atheism isn’t about smug hatred.
Yes it is.
It’s a religion in the same way that having no favorite sports team is itself someone’s favorite team.
There is a difference between a belief system and a religion. Beleg in the scientific method, for instance, is not a religion. In fact it is the only belief system that seeks out to falsify it’s tenets. Also it presupposes no overbearing creator or idea.
However not all atheists have the same belief system, however non believers in a god, hence a-theos. One you get those involved you’re becoming a religion.
Yeah to be honest I just didn’t feel like digging into the nuances. There is atheism (nonreligious), and there is Atheism (religious). And to be clear, that’s totally fine. I have nothing against a/Atheism, only anti-theism or any other form of religious exclusivism.
Fair enough. It is a bit of nuance your should consider sharing, as some people in this sub feel antagonized by the idea of being labeled religious. I know that might be the exact self-identifying and group type dynamic that you may equate with religion (I would disagree, but that’s another thing).
However putting it as bluntly as you did might not help in getting your point across, and that’s a shame as it is actually an interesting area for discussion.
I get what you’re saying, but it’s not. It’s an ideology. However- with the blind hatred of others who chose to believe differently, they may as well rebrand and become Christianity minus a god.
Atheists just “don’t believe in your thing”. Do you not believe in some things? Do you believe in the Norse gods? There are thousands of gods you probably don’t believe in.
Not true. As a panentheistic polytheist I feel entirely comfortable affirming (or at least being open to) the existence of literally any noncorporeal entity you can talk about. I just might not have any interest in engaging with that entity.