Indiana just passed legislation to require schools to ban phones.

They permit them for health reasons, emergencies, when part of lesson, and when part of a formal plan.

I personally don’t like the idea of schools requiring locking them up. What would you do in that emergency they mentioned?

Why should kids not be able to use them at lunch?

If you want to control your kid’s phone time, there’s already apps for that.

Edit: additional comment from a teacher: she said the phone restrictions aren’t going to be as effective as one would think with all the kids having watches with data plans. Dude…

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    8 months ago

    What would you do in that emergency they mentioned?

    Gosh. Call the school, maybe? Or one of the hundred other methods via your smartphone (and not).

    Why should kids not be able to use them at lunch?

    Why should they? Can’t kids, who have less self-control than you do—I’m assuming WAYYY more than I should here—have a chance to develop without a smartphone during what’s normally a social moment with peer interaction? Are you that bonded socially to your cell?

    If you want to control your kid’s phone time, there’s already apps for that.

    Yes, there are. Apparently they’re not being utilized in a effective manner. Parents won’t do anything about it. The school try to educate but incessant attention robbery, be it on an individual level or class-wide, prohibits that. I think the Great State of Indiana has every right in protecting and maintaining a social promise to educate their minor-age children and help them develop in a healthy manner, mentally and physically.

    After 18 years old, you can fuck off.

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      8 months ago

      Why are you so angry? This isn’t a post or news story condemning your favorite political view, or talking shit about your mom.

      Gosh. Call the school.

      Have you ever gone through something like a shooting, fire, tornado?

      I ask because if the average school has kids in the high hundreds or low thousands, you’re not getting through during an emergency to the couple of office staff to ask if the information is real, etc. You’d have sit sit losing your mind waiting for the schools mass notification system to send you something.

      Assuming way more…

      It seems you’re suggesting that me or average parents have the self control of a child? Not sure how this contributes.

      The point about kids having less self control is valid. There’s clearly a different approach to electronics for an elementary school aged kid and a teenager, plus different concerns with negative affects of social media.

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        8 months ago

        Why are you so angry?

        Not angry at all. That’s too bad you read it that way. Loquacious, perhaps…nobody’s perfect. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

        I ask because if the average school has kids in the high hundreds or low thousands, you’re not getting through during an emergency to the couple of office staff to ask if the information is real, etc. You’d have sit sit losing your mind waiting for the schools mass notification system to send you something.

        No. No, you wouldn’t. You’d most likely be going on about your day, like most days, ringing up some customer or finishing some spreadsheet, blissfully ignorant about the exact details of your kid’s exact moments in school…until that notification from the school comes in. But you insist a call from your child in the midst of a crisis, hiding from your hypothetical sniper or in the middle of a tornado warning, would be more effective and less panic-inducing.

        I find it interesting that instead of saying something about smartphones and aiding in-school research/studies, you immediately jump to “red alert emergency!”

        It seems you’re suggesting <snip>

        I’m suggesting that something with the status quo regarding kids’ education and smartphones is not working. I’m suggesting since the good people of Indiana apparently insist on giving their K-12 children smartphones yet can’t teach them responsible usage, that you think that it’s better your children “interact” via TikTok or Instagram or crush candy instead of during Algebra 101, Social Studies or during lunch period, the good state of Indiana and its educators should restrict children’s smartphone usage during school hours. It’s not unreasonable.

        Better yet, teach your kids to leave the phones at home, Mom and Dad. But since you didn’t teach 'em that, well…here we are. Peace.

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          8 months ago

          Yeah I don’t think it’s very reasonable to get a call in the middle of something traumatic, for a moment by moment update, more like this just happened and I’m out or safe or what ever.

          I don’t support phones in class either, I just don’t think they need to lock them up. Maybe just put them up?

          I feel like kids have tons of access to tools for learning and Chromebooks now,.not super worried about needing a phone in class for research.