They just want to avoid EU regulators. And also that EEE thing is just bs fear mongering “they want to take mastodon away from you!!!1!!!”. Email still exists and is alive, xmpp still exists and is alive, http still exists and is alive, all open standards and protocols that have been embraced by big tech companies. Big companies using and connecting to other servers can’t make them disappear. People who use the fediverse today won’t stop using it tomorrow even if the theoretical mass exodus to the large platform happens like described in that one blog post, because the fedi power users of today are there because they don’t like meta or twitter. There will always be users on activitypub whether meta uses it or not, and nobody is forcing you to use their platform either.
Its not about destroying a service but its momentum which was successful with xmpp back in the day.
Also, its not „fear mongering“ it is being cautious and denying the entity that invented corpo social media entry to a space one feels comfortable at, one instance at a time.
I‘m part of the fedipact so I‘m biased. But maybe learn to respect others opinions. You can do what you like, we can too.
email is unusable without bowing to either google or microsoft
xmpp is far more niche than ever before thanks to the big players
http is highly grandfathered in ++ big tech is still working on the extinguish part, ever wonder why most websites are 30mb+ javascript programs? this is one of the reasons
I have not used Microsoft or Google as a primary email provider in years, only Tuta or Proton. Never had a single issue communicating to either google or Microsoft.
People don’t use xmpp because it sucks, the UX is close to terrible and setting up a server is a hassle. The documentation is very lacking and the client options are very scarce. It is plain old and people have moved on to Matrix anyways. But still, I have used XMPP recently a lot thanks to JMP.chat. xmpp is very much not dead and there are very much improvements made regularly. What I’m trying to say is nobody uses xmpp anymore because it’s old and outdated, not because it was killed, because it was not.
Most websites are not bloated because they want to extinguish http wtf. They are huge because of stupid JS libraries and frameworks that web devs use for every little feature. I can guarantee you if Google or Facebook could make their website as pretty as they are while being 1kb, they fucking would, the bandwidth costs savings are worth it for them at their scale
Embrace Extend Extinguish
They just want to avoid EU regulators. And also that EEE thing is just bs fear mongering “they want to take mastodon away from you!!!1!!!”. Email still exists and is alive, xmpp still exists and is alive, http still exists and is alive, all open standards and protocols that have been embraced by big tech companies. Big companies using and connecting to other servers can’t make them disappear. People who use the fediverse today won’t stop using it tomorrow even if the theoretical mass exodus to the large platform happens like described in that one blog post, because the fedi power users of today are there because they don’t like meta or twitter. There will always be users on activitypub whether meta uses it or not, and nobody is forcing you to use their platform either.
Very short sighted imo but you do you.
Its not about destroying a service but its momentum which was successful with xmpp back in the day.
Also, its not „fear mongering“ it is being cautious and denying the entity that invented corpo social media entry to a space one feels comfortable at, one instance at a time.
I‘m part of the fedipact so I‘m biased. But maybe learn to respect others opinions. You can do what you like, we can too.
email is unusable without bowing to either google or microsoft
xmpp is far more niche than ever before thanks to the big players
http is highly grandfathered in ++ big tech is still working on the extinguish part, ever wonder why most websites are 30mb+ javascript programs? this is one of the reasons
I have not used Microsoft or Google as a primary email provider in years, only Tuta or Proton. Never had a single issue communicating to either google or Microsoft.
People don’t use xmpp because it sucks, the UX is close to terrible and setting up a server is a hassle. The documentation is very lacking and the client options are very scarce. It is plain old and people have moved on to Matrix anyways. But still, I have used XMPP recently a lot thanks to JMP.chat. xmpp is very much not dead and there are very much improvements made regularly. What I’m trying to say is nobody uses xmpp anymore because it’s old and outdated, not because it was killed, because it was not.
Most websites are not bloated because they want to extinguish http wtf. They are huge because of stupid JS libraries and frameworks that web devs use for every little feature. I can guarantee you if Google or Facebook could make their website as pretty as they are while being 1kb, they fucking would, the bandwidth costs savings are worth it for them at their scale
Niche doesn’t mean you can’t still pick it up. Ignore the sibling about bad UX as it’s more than servicable & try XMPP today 💪
I do use XMPP, but most programs that are available for it that also support OMEMO really suck, other than Conversations for mobile devices.
Anything wrong with Dino & Gajim? Movim’s web UI is pretty slick as well.