The other day, I was arguing with someone israel and Palestine, and they brought up the whole “everybody has done settler colonialism before” trope. While it’s an idiotic argument even if true (directly contradicting their whole “rules based international order” sthick), it did get me wondering.

I’ve assumed up until now that settler colonialism is a phenomena unique to the capitalist phase of history, but how true is that exactly?

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    7 months ago

    Even if settler-colonialism was common throughout the ancient world, that doesn’t excuse it happening today

    It’s important to make a distinction between the “imperialism” of the Roman empire and the 20th century imperialist structure which coalesced in the 20s-60s, likewise we must distinguish between the existence of torture throughout history (often tenuously supported by Victorian hobnobbing and the ability to make a shitty little website that shows up on Google and little else) and the trail of forensic evidence we have stretching back from the SBU’s detention centers where they electrocuted babushkas thru the kidneys (I’m not kidding) all the way to Malaysia

    European colonialism is an entirely new phase of history that began 1000 years ago.

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        7 months ago

        It’s a pretty serious historical investigation. I’m not an actual historian, I can only gesture to the words of world systems theorists. I just do takes and book reports for now. Not a real Marxist.

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        At least when it comes to imperialism, you should read lenin’s imperialism, the highest stage of capitalism to understand modern imperialism. Modern imperialism is a distinctly capitalist phenomena.

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          I’ve read that work of Lenin, but I haven’t read it in years, and I was hoping if you had an in-depth analysis of pre-modern colonialism. But I understand.