I would like to introduce a new self-hosted community

[email protected]

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So if you’re into that kinda thing, consider giving [email protected] a subscription and then have a wonderful day. If not, have a wonderful day anyway.

  • @[email protected]
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    141 month ago

    Wait, why?

    Are you saying that there is something wrong with all the communities you listed (to which I would also add [email protected]) ?

    Are all the moderators against “believing into taking things into their own hands”?

    It seems like yet-another community is just a manifestation of NIH syndrome. If you want to do it because you enjoy the exercise, fine. But then it makes little sense to also try to attract people that are already happy in other communities.

    In the end, this seems like it does very little to help the ecosystem. Lemmy (and the Fediverse) in general is already struggling to keep people engaged, and this constant and unnecessary fragmentation makes everything worse.

    I’d seriously ask you to reconsider this initiative. Let’s strive to look for the best of things and keep united instead of sowing more division.

    • @sabreW4K3OP
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      31 month ago

      I added your one.

      As for why. I just explained this recently actually. What I love about Lemmy is that there can be so many different flavours of communities that you can find the one that’s a perfect fit for you.

      I was a prolific poster in WORLD and loved it, I even made a post thanking everyone for helping there, but suddenly people decided they had a problem with posting updates and so I figured I’d find a better fit. Ramped up my activity on ML and then similarly people decided to take umbrage with the way links were posted, after a bit of kerfuffle, I ended up adding a line about what each service does to every release I posted.

      Yesterday there were three releases that I notified the community about and today another three including a critical bug fix for something I posted yesterday.

      As I went to clean out my inbox, I went to thank someone who notified me of a release and noticed I couldn’t submit the response, when I investigated further, I saw my post was removed. Not just that post, all posts. I loaded up Lemmy in my browser, looked at the modlog and saw a moderator removed them citing I was posting random GitHub links. That’s fine, as I said, different flavours, different fits. But I would’ve appreciated a heads up, especially as I feel I’ve done a lot to keep that community feeling active. Never mind though.

      Luckily, when the kerfuffle occurred, I went looking for a host for a community whereby I wouldn’t have to worry about people complaining about me doing something I found valuable when others did it. Amusingly, I looked at selfhosted.forum and they didn’t have a selfhosted, so I continued to look and found libretechni.ca and ended up making the community myself.

      I just want to be able to post when software updates come out and help whomever I can with the paltry knowledge I’ve acquired without offending or bothering anyone. It’s not a slight on anyone or a criticism of anyone, just a desire to try and share the excitement, joy and fulfillment I get from self hosting.

      • @[email protected]
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        41 month ago

        If you think that posting about any reasonably important project is important, then fine. But then again, I’d reason that the people that share your belief would already be to the relevant RSS feeds, no? Maybe the whole thing that you are trying to do could be replaced with a “PSA” style post, where you link a OPML list of RSS feeds from the projects that are worth tracking?

        • @sabreW4K3OP
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          11 month ago

          Prior to the posts being deleted, their scores were overwhelmingly positive. It just so happens that some people weren’t appreciative and that’s fine. Not everything is for everyone.

          I know that before I set up my N8N, I had no way of tracking releases that weren’t intrusive and I know what when people posted releases, it gave me something to look into.

          There was even a time when because a release was posted, when someone encountered a problem, I was able to identify it and help them. To me that’s what a community is. Sharing and helping.

          Even now, I’m still excited enough to watch the terminal as I do docker-compose pull while I drink my tea and when things that my N8N missed pop up, I rush like an excited child to tell people that an update for something they may be running is out. And since the other self hosted communities don’t appreciate it, why wouldn’t I create one that does?

          • @[email protected]
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            21 month ago

            To me that’s what a community is. Sharing and helping.

            Too much of a good thing can still be bad. I made the same mistake with the alien.top bots.

            • @sabreW4K3OP
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              21 month ago

              Indeed, but I’m not a bot. I’m a human. But ultimately, that’s why I made a new community, so no one who doesn’t want to deal with it, doesn’t have to feel like their space was hijacked to facilitate it.

      • @[email protected]
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        31 month ago

        May I suggest a self host software update / news community instead? It would cover your need and still not fragment. Maybe even a separate one that is just vulnerability posts would be nice for option to subscribe to what you want to see.

        • @sabreW4K3OP
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          11 month ago

          I’ve had this sitting in my inbox all day because to be quite frank with you, I found it troubling.

          I can’t speak for everyone, but when I joined Lemmy, it was because I believed in decentralization amongst other things. So when you speak of fragmentation, my feelings are essentially akin to bafflement.

          I’m just one person and am running a miniscule community to discuss a topic. I highly doubt that the members that have subscribed are going to stop posting in WORLD or ML.

          You’re basically suggesting that the first group has some sort of right over smaller groups and that’s fundamentally untrue.

          When willya started his Sex Memes community, NSFW memes was already up and running and has thousands of subscribers, however because of the way he runs his community, his is presently the most successful one. That doesn’t fragment the meme community, it strengthens it.

          I don’t subscribe to the idea that the first or the biggest is the best. There’s plenty of, let’s call them legacy groups, on Lemmy, where the moderators have no presence whatsoever and what, everyone should use their groups? No.

          The best groups, with the best moderators and the best admins will rise to the top and they absolutely should, because they’re the best. Not because of where they’re hosted or when they were started. It’s why I’m so vehemently against automatically merging groups, because let’s be honest, some moderators are dick heads and don’t deserve to bathe in the success of groups that keep their users safe and engaged.

          Anyway, thanks for the suggestion, but no thanks. Though I promise that my tiddly community shan’t steal perceivable engagement from WORLD any time soon. And if it does, it’ll be great for the Fediverse as WORLD is, comparatively speaking, too big already anyway.

          • @[email protected]
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            11 month ago

            I wasn’t criticizing making another self hosted community exactly. I like the thought of them broken up as separate communities so

            1. Quick glance you see a vulnerability since it’s coming from that community
            2. Updates are cool but I could see it people not caring for every announcement.
            3. This also allows people that don’t care for requests for help or troubleshooting to declutter their feeds.
            • @sabreW4K3OP
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              11 month ago

              Updates are cool but I could see it people not caring for every announcement.

              Not everything is for everyone. Some updates are cool, some updates are important (like the hotfix fallout from Immich and Paperless) and some are mundane. But I would like to create a culture of people reading about and discussing updates, enough so that developers start to post the updates themselves or comment in update posts.

              This also allows people that don’t care for requests for help or troubleshooting to declutter their feeds.

              That’s not a community I would like to foster. I wouldn’t be happy with people considering requests for help as clutter.