Apparently it is available on Hulu which I happen to have. I wouldn’t go out of my way to watch it, but it would be extremely convenient now. So I don’t think for one second that Hulu would host anything which is even remotely praising of Stalin, but I’m wondering if it is at least tolerable for a socialist viewer. Is there any historical accuracy at all? Does humor and entertainment outweigh the ideological position of capitalist Hollywood at all? Will I just get mad if I watch it, or can I enjoy it in the sense that no western media will ever do justice to the history of the USSR and its ok to laugh a little?
I think you can appreciate it for the dark comedy and chadly Zhukov. Definitely worth a watch, even if you want to to a liberal prop drinking game/bingo while watching it
So long as you don’t take it seriously, I think its a pretty funny movie.
It’s pretty funny. I wouldn’t go in expecting historical accuracy or deep thought about Stalin/the USSR’s role in history. It’s more a dark comedy about the inanity and at the same time absolute cruelty of inner circle politics at the heights of power. Also Zhukov’s great in it
No
No
No. There’s nothing more annoying than movies about foreign countries where everyone speaks English.
I see I have upset the anglos
The end of the movie is shit. It’s been a while and there are funny scenes for sure. The end is awful tho.
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It’s just a stupid comedy, chill
However, it does more harm than most of the the “serious” anticommunist publications. Nobody reads the latter untill they gets wildly pushed like Black Book or Pipes diarrhea, but a funny movie gets internalised in the politically uneducated masses very easily. In Poland we have a lot of examples how great and funny comedies from 70’s and 80’s, portraying the socialist reality with satire, are now being taken absolutely seriously in many cases.
I agree, but saying you want to kill people who watch a movie is a bit extreme and concerning.
Naturally, i just don’t agree that those kind of movies are stupid, they are propaganda too and an insidious one.
I disagree. That is a problem with attempting to pander to the least common denominator.
A lot of satire goes completely over the heads of many people, but that’s not the fault of the filmmaker or movie a lot of the times.
At some point it’ll just be impossible to try and make it so that reactionaries don’t latch onto everything.
Thank you for proving my point that it is very insdious propaganda.
The very same topic floated some time ago in Deprogram sub and there was a lot of communist defending that piece just because they found it funny too.
Of course nothing wrong with actually finding it fun, but only as far as you recognize it’s propaganda. And overally it will do harm because even among the comrades, many do not.
I was not defending the movie and I have no idea where you got that from. I also never said I found the movie funny.
I was simply stating that there is a event horizon with satire where if the viewer is so in-grained in propaganda that they cannot discern satire from reality, that is not the problem of the film.
Thats the entire point of satire. Its supposed to ironic. If the viewer cannot differentiate that, it does not make it “propaganda” it means the viewer is ignorant and uneducated.
Again, that is not the issue of the filmmaker.
By your logic anything can be propaganda whether it is or isn’t. You’ve created an entirely arbitrary and illogical system.
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A movie shows Stalin satirically in a poor light, so people should die. What is the logic here.
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I understand, but your wording was extreme and not really applicable. It was not a good phrasing.
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Nice job with the personal attacks. Touch grass since it seems you have nothing else to say.
Nice job projecting your own insecurities, you’re the one talking about killing people (even if it was for dramatic effect to emphasize your own personal dislike) over a fucking movie lmao
Get a fucking grip
Hope that’s hyperbole mate