• Snowflake@sh.itjust.works
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    6 months ago

    He doesn’t have to admit murder but it is right in front of your face. Someone very connected to Boeing murdered them.

    Another thing is the kind of person and even entity/organization it takes to discipline a whistleblower for literally looking out for the public wellbeing such in this case. It takes a sociopath with no regard for human life. If they would discipline them at work what else would they do in private?

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      Guy 1 who suddenly committed suicide? sure. Guy 2 would need about a hundred people to keep the secret and that’s just not happening.

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      Someone very connected to Boeing murdered them.

      Yeah, that second guy, they went all biological right? I mean they gave him the flu to get him to the hospital. Once there, and in his weakened state, they sprang MRSA on him! That way, when they caused the parting shot with a stroke, no one would suspect!

      Conspiracy is a lot of fun! Lets add aliens. I mean the whole reason why this is all so hush hush is the government is in a contract with the Aliens from Alpha Centauri and these people stumbled onto it. It is so obvious!

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        I agree with you but this is not as impossible as you want it to seem. You can give someone flu like symptoms with a live vaccine shot. MRSA is touch spread and a stroke is just a blocked blood vessel in the brain. Easily done with an injection of something in the carotid. The ridiculous part is the complexity and number of people who would need to keep a secret.

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          All of those things were/are just another Tuesday class for your average KGB spook, not impossible at all. In a 100+ Billion dollar defense contractor I imagine you could find more than one person willing to shut up and take the giant bag, hell you can buy a congressman to sell out a whole community for like 10k

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            No that’s the problem. Once someone is in a hospital there’s a paper trail a mile long. If you wanted to assassinate someone then the hospital is the last place you would do it. You’d need to pay off a hundred people and hope none of them ever decides to talk. Or you start killing them off but then how long does it take big data FBI to connect those dots?

            If guy number 2 was somehow DOA at the hospital or already infected with something irreversible then you’d have a case. But flu to hospital MRSA case to Stroke just isn’t how anyone who cared about remaining free and anonymous would kill someone.

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              One person. That’s all it takes.

              They find the person shopping or something, routine. Spritz some flu into their face. (Well, more discretely, but yeah.)

              They go to the hospital, pay the guy a visit when, spritz some MRSA on his linens or something. Plenty of opportunity. Even better, spritz it on everyone’s linens so it looks like an outbreak.

              Slip in, visit the guy and inject a stroke causing drug. Maybe even something as innocuous as just injecting an air bubble into his artery.

              Maybe a small support team. But really, you think Boeing doesn’t already have a hitter on the payroll?

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                This isn’t Hollywood. You can’t just walk into an ICU ward and inject someone.

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                  Well, I have not done the injecting bit, but I have just walked into more than one ICU… It’s not hard. Nurses and security both are over staffed and underpaid.

                  (I work in contract security- at one point part of my job was pen testing. Chilled with an interesting fellow named Edgar, while waiting to get caught. Didn’t have anyone to talk to, so, we just chatted. Mostly he chatted.)

                  harder at night but only because there’s fewer people.

                  Unless there’s a specific reason someone needs high security… the security is largely a joke.

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                    So the fact that you got paid to tell them their ICU was effectively open to the public doesn’t ring any alarm bells that that’s not supposed to be the case?

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                  Yes you can lol. Do you think ICU wards are some high security facility? At worst you would have to get someone admissioned to the same hospital, be a visitor and on the way out pass by the other room quickly.

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              There have been multiple nurses that have killed people over periods of years.

              It’s nowhere near as impossible as you seem to think it is.

              Charles Cullen, a nurse, murdered dozens—possibly hundreds—of patients during a 16-year career spanning several New Jersey and Pennsylvania medical centers until being arrested in 2003.

              William Davis, who worked at Christus Mother Frances Hospital in Tyler, Texas, fatally injected four patients with air.

              Nurse Heather Pressdee pleaded guilty to three counts of first-degree murder and 19 counts of criminal attempt to commit murder.

              Reta Mays, a former nursing assistant, killed seven elderly veterans with fatal injections of insulin at a West Virginia hospital.

              The list sadly goes on and on and on. There’s even an entire Wikipedia article about it. And those are just the crazies that did for their own enjoyment.

              You’re blissfully very naïve about this.

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                I’m really not. Serial killers exist isn’t evidence it’s easy to get away with killing in a hospital. In fact the very existence of the list proves they’re getting caught.

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                  Countless evidence of people commiting multiple murders, sometimes for decades at a time, and that somehow means one person couldn’t possibly be killed in the same setting…

                  So you’re not naive, you’re just willfully stupid. Got it.

                  Good luck with that.

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          The ridiculous part is the complexity and number of people who would need to keep a secret.

          That is exactly right. That is where it all falls apart.