Chancellor Reeves has cut Winter Fuel Allowance for pensioners but claimed heating expenses on top of her salary of over £90k Right-wing Labour Chancellor Rachel Reeves has become known as ‘R…
Giving money to millionaires is far from left wing.
It actually is. Universalism is the ultimate left-wing principle, and means testing is in direct opposition of that. The NHS doesn’t charge you when it thinks you can afford to pay for it. Don’t like giving the rich money? Just tax them more, you’ll get it back.
We’re not talking about millionaires here, only those that don’t qualify for Pension Credit, which you only have to earn over a little over £870 a month to not qualify for. We’re not talking about well off people here.
We’re talking about someone who’s retired though earning 875 a month. If you’re retired and you’re earning money then that must be coming from something you own a business or some sort of asset.
It’s not a huge amount of money I know but they must have other assets to be able to get any kind of income that isn’t a pension.
Right but this is a fund explicitly intended for people who don’t have a lot of money. If you’ve got a private pension you’ve got money.
The whole point is so that you don’t start to suffer from surprise expenses like large heating bills because the weather suddenly gets very cold. You’re not supposed to be trying to live off that payment.
It’s daft that it isn’t means tested, my grandmother for example when she died had over 2 million pounds in the bank and yet she used to get cold weather allowance.
There are two arguments to have here, one is whether or not it should be means tested, and the other is what the limit should be.
All the benefits that will no longer be eligible for Winter Fuel Payments Only those claiming Pension Credit or some means tested benefits will definitely be eligible Winter Fuel Payments following the Chancellor’s announcement. This means the following benefits will not make a claimant eligible this winter:
If you say so. PIP is literally the personal independence payment, there to provide disabled people a semblance of life. If they need that, surely they need help with heating. And the state pension, speaks for itself.
Well, no, the old and poor will still be eligible is my understanding. It’s just now David Attenborough can’t get it because he can probably afford to heat his home on his own.
If 1 was true. Then yes, so would be 2.
But 1 is not true. They have not stopped payments. Just indicated a method of means testing.
Giving money to millionaires is far from left wing.
We’re talking about someone who’s retired though earning 875 a month. If you’re retired and you’re earning money then that must be coming from something you own a business or some sort of asset.
It’s not a huge amount of money I know but they must have other assets to be able to get any kind of income that isn’t a pension.
Privrate pension is included.
And it makes no difference where the money comes from. It is all your income. So everything you have to live off.
Right but this is a fund explicitly intended for people who don’t have a lot of money. If you’ve got a private pension you’ve got money.
The whole point is so that you don’t start to suffer from surprise expenses like large heating bills because the weather suddenly gets very cold. You’re not supposed to be trying to live off that payment.
It’s daft that it isn’t means tested, my grandmother for example when she died had over 2 million pounds in the bank and yet she used to get cold weather allowance.
There are two arguments to have here, one is whether or not it should be means tested, and the other is what the limit should be.
Utter a total rubbish.
If you have a private pension, you have had a job at some point.
If that pension is paying less the 900 a month, you have put very little into it.
Stop being so darn short sighted.
Fair point. Not the one being argued By OP. But a better argument to make.
You mean the working age benefits that are replaced once someone reaches retirement age?
No one getting those benefits now. Is also getting this winter fuel allowance.
It’s almost like Sabre doesn’t actually know what he’s on about.
If you say so. PIP is literally the personal independence payment, there to provide disabled people a semblance of life. If they need that, surely they need help with heating. And the state pension, speaks for itself.
Pip is not income based. Disabled millionaires are entitled to it.
Because it is about the difference in cost of being disabled not poverty.
State pension is not income based. It is a right you pay for as you work.
Learn a little about the benifits before commenting.
You have to be under the state pension age to apply for pip, whereas winter fuel payments are for retired people…
PIP is also not income based.
So the old and disabled then?
Well, no, the old and poor will still be eligible is my understanding. It’s just now David Attenborough can’t get it because he can probably afford to heat his home on his own.