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    You will care when you have some heart pain, and a $194,000 hospital bill. Which would bankrupt 98% of UCP voters. That’s the part I can’t wrap my head around. You haven’t paid for shit when it comes to health care.

    I work with Americans every day. One just went and had a baby and got a $19k hospital bill for the privilege. Copay this and copay that.

    Careful what you wish for.

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      I’ve not had health insurance in 8 years. Alberta won’t issue a card if you’ve no fixed address, and I’m a stubborn trucker with a mail box. I’ve sure paid for it though. The tax rates are insane.

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        So your favorite solution to that isn’t to fix that issue, it’s to privatize healthcare so you need to have private insurance instead? How do you think that will go, Mr I don’t have a fixed address? Why do you want to make sure more people have to deal with the same issue you’ve got?

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            Eh… So… About that first bit… I’ve got bad news for you buddy if you think that privatized healthcare is great and you think that Americans don’t pay way too much for it.

            The US government is the one that pays the most per capita for healthcare, what everyone pays in taxes for healthcare is only used to cover about a third of the population, that means the rest also needs to pay for private insurance as well or they’re not covered at all and pay out of pocket when they need to go to the hospital.

            Life expectancy, child death, death during labour, look at the stats, the US is worse than some very poor countries that offer healthcare for everyone.

            Hell, if you pay taxes in Alberta then I’ve got news for you buddy, you’re paying fuck dick for healthcare. You’re ready to pay for private insurance in the USA instead of paying rent somewhere for a few months to have an address or finding someone that lets you use their address in order to apply for Alberta coverage? All that tells me is that you’re not one that lets logic get in their way!

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            Congratulations, under privatized/american style healthcare, you wouldn’t have health insurance, would pay more tax to the government for said lack of healthcare, AND if anything happens, you will have to pay 10x more! WOO, worst of both worlds!

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              Look at all these people making thr same tired fallacious arguments like they’ve been trained, bud. I’m not sure they’re even real people. Rag on Americans, bring up Scandinavian happiness, pretend out system works out of misguided patriotism, and ignore how I mentioned Mexico too.

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            Oh ok, so you’re a homeowner in Saskatchewan but you’re complaining that you can’t get insurance in a province you don’t reside in? And you own a house after moving out of another province but you don’t live in it? And I guess you didn’t think that it might be a good idea to get coverage from the province where you own a house since it will work everywhere in Canada anyway… I nstead your thought process was that it would be at good idea to pay for both public healthcare through your Canadian taxes AND private coverage in the USA? I get that right?

            Sounds to me like someone has been lying a lot to try and prove their point! How about building your opinions on facts for a change? Because right now either you’re building a big pile of lies or you’re the kind of person that doesn’t let logic get in their way!

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              I’m not discussing my finances with you to any great detail, or reading that mess. I own a home I don’t reside in, in another province, and that is a recent development as opposed to working in Alberta as a trucker 7 years with no health card.

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                So… You were living in Vancouver until 6 years ago but have been uninsured for 8 years but have started working as a trucker in Alberta 7 years ago and you now own a house in Saskatchewan but you don’t live in it but you brag about owning it while also saying in other comments that you want to move to the USA…

                So you could be covered under BC health until 6 years ago because you lived in BC (but decided to not be covered two years prior) and you own a house in Saskatchewan since not too long ago so you could be insured in that province but decide not to be for some reason…

                Man, I’m not a detective but it sure does sound like you just got caught in a bunch of lies right there!

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                  That’s pretty much what happened give or take rounding dates to the nearest year. Late 2017 isn’t 6 years ago anymore, nearly 8 now.

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                    Oh ok, so you just decided to give up on any occasion to be publically insured and instead decided it would be a great idea to pay for US private insurance instead on a 65k/year trucker salary…

                    That actually explains a lot about this whole conversation.