• L0rdMathias@sh.itjust.works
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    4 months ago

    Large university who is fully in control of the people they choose to admit or decline says “there’s no doubt they left out many qualified and promising applicants who would have excelled”. How could the government do this!? Large university, who is completely in control of their applications process, wonders out loud.

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      They are not fully in control because the ruling didn’t say that affirmative action couldn’t be a government requirement. It said that a policy that enables affirmative action violates the constitution.

      So, they are no longer asking applicants about race or ethnicity information. But they are expanding recruitment and financial aid to prioritize low income students.

      I’m not agreeing with the court ruling, just clarifying the false representation of the issue with regard to the school.

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        I was lucky enough to see Ibram X. Kendi speak on anti-racism in higher education, and it was illuminating to realize that, as a white, cis-het man, I might not be able to work within the system to change the system without actively breaking laws.

        The example he used was actually affirmative action and EEO standards and how the best an ally can do in certain situations might be to put your thumb on the scale even when it’s technically illegal.

        Basically, if you want to be anti-racist, you’ve gotta be Chaotic Good since the system is literally rigged against people of color.

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        So, they are no longer asking applicants about race or ethnicity information. But they are expanding recruitment and financial aid to prioritize low income students.

        Holy shit, this is what I’ve wanted forever, finally!

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            Focusing on low income families. That by itself would have a positive impact on minorities since they happen to be over represented in the poor families category.

            Imo this way poor conservatives don’t feel excluded and work against these initiatives. Same destination, different paths to get there.

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              Except in reality this change caused diversity to go down. Like actual real numbers, not theory.

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                Would like to see the data for that if you have it.

                There could be other factors but a lot of people like me just don’t want minorities to be held back because of poverty. People can have cultural reasons why they might not go towards education (or go more so than other cultures). Personally, I don’t think it’s up to society to change something like that.

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                    Read the article, some minority numbers went down some went up.

                    It also says that 40% of population of US identify as non white but in university, 38% consider themselves white.

                    Doesn’t that mean people who consider themselves white make 60% of the population but only 38% of the admissions? Sounds like removing this law is making admission rates closer to population demographics.

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                    The article said that 15% was the number of black admissions, that’s higher than the total percentage in US (12%). So they were over represented, and remember, there could be cultural reasons why some black youth might not think college is worth it more than other ethnic groups (like Asians).

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      Yeah that jumped at me as well.

      The whole process is about accepting the most qualified, leaving people out who are qualified but didn’t meet the limit is kind of the whole thing.

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      Obviously they aren’t since it was a SCOTUS decision that forced them to change their admissions.