• finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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    16 days ago

    You’re saying the party socializing healthcare is ideologically opposed to people who want socialized healthcare…?

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      16 days ago

      He is saying:

      Left is Bernie Sanders

      the democrats are the center (leaning right)

      the republican are the right.

      From the rest of the world point of view: US politics is center right VS extreme right.

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        16 days ago

        The large majority of democrats want progressive reform, so that’s just wrong. There is a reason Bernie only caucuses with the Democrats.

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          16 days ago

          The large majority of Democratic voters absolutely do. However the large majority of Democratic donors do not and are at odds with the voter base of the Democratic party.

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            16 days ago

            User “Keep on Stalin” wants to villainize US Politicians by association, explicitly not vote history.

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                16 days ago

                Oh I’m sorry, I guess you’re changing your argument from Democrats being on the center-rogjt to Democrats being not left enough. Admittedly a much more reasonable argument.

                But in order to not admit being wrong you’re just shifting the goal post by saying left isn’t actually left unless it’s as left as your arbitrary placement on the spectrum, which is further than socialized healthcare, higher taxes on the rich, and higher minimum wages. Those are just Centrists.

                I apologize for putting you on the spot like that. I’m sure it was very distressing. My bad.

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                    16 days ago

                    My apologies I hadn’t realised you changed stances, I thought you were using those sources to argue in favor of your previous point. Notably with how you said theres a disconnect between supporters and policy.