• teuast@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    ik this is a shitpost but that’s like the worst possible way to handle that situation

    i’m like a third-generation none, my parents were both raised secular and their marriage was officiated by a guy from the a.h.a., but i had some christian classmates in like kindergarten or first grade (public school in california) and i sorta half remember asking my mom some question about something i’d heard them say at some point or another, and what she did was she explained to me (in 5yo detail, anyway) what christianity even was, which i didn’t really understand at that point, and that was enough to make it clear to me how silly it all was.

    one of the easiest ways to figure out who to trust, imo, is looking for who can most accurately and fairly describe what their opponents’ argument is. trying to hide it away from a kid who’s looking for answers is just going to make it more intriguing. going over it in detail makes it clear what the problems are.

    e: damn, who’d i piss off

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      What you described is called Steelmanning. It is the opposite of strawmanning.

      The idea is to concisely repeat your opponents argument with the most charitable interpretation to see if they disagree with anything, for the purposes of ironing out any misconceptions.

      People who cannot steelman are either ignorant, or malicious.

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        agreed. that’s why i’m saying it’s so important to use it when teaching kids about religion.

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          Jeez, this sub has not been fair to you :/

          I agree with you. It is important to try to fairly represent the opinions of others. Because once you do, then you can fairly tell them why you believe they’re wrong.

          Giving them reasons to doubt God based on flawed assumptions will teach them poor epistemology.

          “I don’t believe in God because I’ve never seen him” is not a good reason to believe God isn’t real. There are legitimately good reasons, children must hear them.

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      Looks like you pissed off someone with bots based on people who disliked you.

      There are two of the same usernames multiple times, one of them 6 times, one of them 7 times. Some of them on my instance as well, I have banned them now.

      Edit: And this is not the first instance of it, that user including its other accounts has so far downvoted you over 350 times in total. That’s some dedication.

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        It’s happening to others also, mass downvoting as though it matters. They’re trying to use the reddit method where it doesn’t make sense.

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        that’s what i figured as well. all i’ve been doing is posting about how cops are bad, bikes are good, and i like funk music. real fuckyouinparticular vibes, huh?

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          I may send you the list of the accounts if you wish, so you can block them but I’m afraid it won’t help that much, because creating accounts doesn’t take much effort.

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      I was raised Christian and took all the stories at face value and true. I think I was about 7 or so when I watch a movie I think was called The Bible. For some reason, seeing the stuff on video allowed me to see how ridiculous it was. After that, I still went to church, but I was looking at it from the outside.