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sabreW4K3 to Climate - truthful information about climate, related activism and politics.@slrpnk.net · 8 months ago

Gas industry in damage control as landmark study finds LNG 'worse than coal' for the climate - ABC News

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sabreW4K3 to Climate - truthful information about climate, related activism and politics.@slrpnk.net · 8 months ago
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Gas industry in damage control as landmark study finds LNG 'worse than coal' for the climate
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For years, the mantra from the industry has been that gas is a bridge between coal and renewable energy. A landmark study has sensationally challenged that idea.
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    “It burns clean.” - I’ve been told this so many times by people who watch fox news. But that is where their knowledge stops. You tell them burning it still releases carbon into the air, and they have nothing else to say

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      “I can’t see the smoke so it must be better”

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      Burning anything is never clean. I have heard the “it burns clean” so many times.

      From what I read in the article, its true that natural gas burns with fewer CO2 emissions than coal or oil. However, over a 20 year timeframe natural gas production, distribution, and consumption produces more methane than than either oil or coal. Since methane is a more powerful greenhouse gas, the increased emission of it, surpasses any benefit from fewer CO2 emissions.

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      Shit dude, there’s placards on public buses here in Portland that say “clean burning natural gas”

    • brlemworld@lemmy.world
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      Not burning it is worse. It’s methane

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    deleted by creator

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    That study is 13 years old.

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      Huh? Looks like 2024 to me. https://www.research.howarthlab.org/publications/Howarth_LNG_assessment_preprint_archived_2023-1103.pdf

      He does have tons of other LNG papers though.

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      Why would the LNG industry be in damage control over a 13 year old study? I’m pretty sure its referring to a study which was published very recently

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    Something we already knew but you know, oil and gas lobbys…. Scum.

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    What would be an alliterative version of the “Clean Coal” BS?

    • Green Gas
    • Gold Gas
    • Natural Gas (ok, but it’s just there)

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