• Che Banana@beehaw.org
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    2 days ago

    Ok, I think you may have misread my post.

    What my post means is that the GOP is taking notes on how to oppress women more.

    But don’t actually read it, just post your preloaded agenda.

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      1 day ago

      No disagreement that the fascists in the west are taking notes, of course.

      But the first part of your post implies that nobody is doing anything. I responded to that.

      Frankly, I am actually at a loss at what else could be done and it’s heartbreaking. The taliban are inventing a whole new type of apartheid at the heels of decades of western intervention. Russia just recognized them and seems to be the only country able to engage them. I got nothing but impotent rage.

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        19 hours ago

        Frankly, I am actually at a loss at what else could be done and it’s heartbreaking.

        Yeah, I don’t think any of the typical political or economic pressure tactics will have any effect on the Taliban. The only thing that will end the oppression of women in Afghanistan right now is a direct military intervention to remove the Taliban from authority, followed by a sustained presence long enough to substantially change the culture. A new generation would need to be born and grow up with a different value structure that treats women as equals (so like, 50 years minimum). And that means running the country’s public institutions, rewriting its laws, enforcing justice and re-educating/indoctrinating its population, which is morally ambiguous at best.

        I don’t think there is enough united global will to support that, and it’s an ethical minefield of one culture imposing its beliefs on another (which has some nasty parallels with the imperialist/colonialist days). There’s no fix that doesnt involve violence that I can see.

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      1 day ago

      Your post indicates that any other coutry or faction will say nothing about this. Hence silence.

      Dont know why youre upset about someone pointing that out.

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      2 days ago

      No, your post starts with the implication that “the west” is not doing anything about the oppression of women in Afghanistan and doesn’t care:

      The only sound you’ll hear from the west […]

      To properly address the point you’re trying to make, it’s necessary to address the premise first… to begin at the beginning, as it were. If you can’t justify your premise, then your conclusion doesn’t hold water.

      So what is it that you think “the west” is not doing, that it could or should be doing?