Context

The main arguments for people to defederate are

  • “Embrace, extend, and extinguish” strategy: https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html
  • A potential federation with Threads (should Thread decide to implement it) would overwhelm Lemmy/Mbin/Piefed with millions of users (compared to the 40k monthly current active users), transforming those platforms into a threaded version of Facebook
  • Defederating preventively costs nothing
  • finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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    11 hours ago

    Its possible to convince me to move to another instance if anybody can recommend one with the following:

    • Anti-Tankie sentiment/rules/regulation (fuck those fake communists flooding the feed with spam 24/7)

    • Fairly active community

    • General use instance, not one with a specific agenda

    But otherwise I guess I’d probably just stop using lemmy altogether when threads hits World.

    • Blaze (he/him)@feddit.orgOP
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      11 hours ago

      Sopuli.xyz has blocked both lemmygrad and hexbear. You can block lemmy.ml in your user settings, that should set you up.

      About the active community, not sure what you mean, as exporting and importing your settings would keep you subscribed to the same communities that your current account, and sopuli is large enough to have the same All feed than LW

      • finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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        11 hours ago

        “fairly active community” in this context means more than just 100 accounts moderated by 1 guy in a basement with a lot of spiders in it

        No offense intended to that man and his 100 users, just doesn’t seem like a very good longterm solution. Much of the internet today is transient and impermanent.

        • snooggums@lemmy.world
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          No matter what instance you are on, you are most likely to be subscribed to communities on other instances. For example, when I switched instances due to technical issues I ended up subbing to the same or at least a similar list of communities across instances and blocking the same users after a few weeks.

          • finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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            11 hours ago

            Problem is I don’t really do that. I just like to browse the all feed, often Top Hour and Top Day as well.

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              10 hours ago

              Sopuli.xyz has the same All feed as LW, as they block the same instances, and Sopuli is large enough that people have subscribed to any active community possible

            • snooggums@lemmy.world
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              10 hours ago

              The easy solution is to just go to an instance and browse their All feed and see if it has the content you like. If I understand correctly you are limited to instance communities if you aren’t signed in so that should give you a good idea about the instance culture.

              For example, if you visit https://startrek.website/ you will see it is pretty much star trek stuff. If you go to hexbear you will just see their hexbear bullshit. Both will give you an idea of what their instance is all about without needing to register.

        • PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat
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          Anti-Tankie sentiment/rules/regulation (fuck those fake communists flooding the feed with spam 24/7)

          I’ve been messing around with an automatic troll filter for ponder.cat that auto-blocks the doo doo head accounts regardless of whether the mods are doing their jobs. No Linkerbaan, no UM back when he was around, no MBFC bot. There are around a couple of hundred users that everyone universally dislikes, and with them gone, the place is much nicer.

          I’ve found that just avoiding lemmy.world takes care of 90% of the problem, so I haven’t done much with the programmatic solution, but if you want to browse the bad communities without the bad people I can probably hook you up.

          Fairly active community

          On this count I fail. It’s two guys, no spiders, sometimes a cat, and a pretty uncertain future.

          • finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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            11 hours ago

            Moving to Lemmy.world from Lemmy.today was actually a solution that decreased the tankie activity I saw, interestingly enough.

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              11 hours ago

              Yeah, just doing away with LW in all my subscriptions made so much of the stupidity go away. I’m still on [email protected], but just as of the last day or two, it’s been showing some kind of federation problem, so I think I will let it go as well.

              The niche communities with responsible moderators on LW are still great. The stuff that flows out of that big planned-economy org chart has some kind of rot going on with it that you don’t even realize the extent of, until you remove it from your Lemmy.

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              He’s got an account on sh.itjust.works, too.

              I’m not sure what’s the moderation philosophy that’s welcoming him to these instances. It’s possible that because he hasn’t caused a problem yet on the new accounts, there’s no harm done, but I would be saddened and surprised if the more up-to-speed places were as lenient with him as LW was.

    • OpenStars@piefed.social
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      9 hours ago

      PieFed.social, Mbin, or use one of Sync or Connect that can actually block tankie users - Lemmy’s “block” doesn’t block hardly anything at all, as you still see them, they can downvote you, generate notifications, etc. Read more here.

      You may also want to block certain news and political communities in favor of better ones that are not so filled with toxicity and misinformation regardless of whether the content comes from certain instances.