In the face of ‘eradication’, one trans activist is preparing to fight – and she’s sick of silence and neglect from her supposed allies. Raquel Willis tells Io Dodds why Republican bathroom bans are everybody’s problem

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    12 days ago

    Move the goalposts if it makes you feel you’re forming a better argument; the by-line from your and prior comments was about infighting and criticism of the party, and that they don’t represent the people the party claims to cares about. Inflation wasn’t part of this discussion, but it honestly reinforces my point. “Tariffs bad” yes tariffs are bad, what is the party going to do about the real economic harm that voters feel from rising cost of living? Gaslight them some more? Point to line going up on the S&P as ‘progress’ and then wonder why working poor stay home every cycle? Maybe that’s why they’re disinterested in politics?

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      I haven’t moved the goalpost. The prior comments were talking about infighting and criticism of the party and your comment brought up the recent election specifically.

      Democrats lost the recent election because of inflation experienced during Bidens term.

      Infighting and criticism creates apathy that lowers voter turnout. It is a key component of FUD, an effective strategy that is used in online communities like this one.

      Both are true.

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        Inflation is the prime reason cited by voters, not the electorate who registered to vote, and not the population as a whole.

        Look at how Trump managed to drive turnout amongst non/low propensity voters, even at the cost of the more traditional Republican voters. Populism wielded by an autocratic demagogue is a cancer, but you don’t beat cancer with yet another neoliberal bandage atop the gaping wound caused by unchecked capitalism.

        And it’s genuinely infuriating to see ostensible allies on the left bludgeon any criticism of the party as FUD - if I’m not permitted to post-mortem the DNC after a pathetic showing where they burned a billion dollars, with a B, and still lost all three (four even) branches of government, when will you accept any feedback? Are you seriously going to spend the next 2, 4, 6, etc years reinforcing a bubble devoid of criticism?

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          11 days ago

          What 4 branches are you referring to?

          Also, republicans won the majority of voters by constantly referring to democrats as being pro-lgbtq. To turn around and criticize the democrats for that is pretty shitty

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            I like the speed downvote within under a minute, and nitpicking whilst ignoring the substance of my comment, top tier wit on display

            Honesty it’s a slip meaning the four houses (Senate, House, Executive, and Supreme Court) but given the way the media is fawning and exonerating Trump, the fourth branch also fits

            Edit: Changing your post to add more substance after being called out is weak af, get better rhetoric skills. Saving for posterity bc you wolnt:

            What 4 branches are you referring to?

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              I like the speed downvote within under a minute, and nitpicking whilst ignoring the substance of my comment, top tier wit on display

              Did you forget to call timeout? Your comment had no substance to ignore. You’re making a lot of unfounded claims about what you think the entire population wants based on your feelings.

              Edit: Changing your post to add more substance after being called out is weak af, get better rhetoric skills.

              Don’t be dramatic. As soon as I posted I went back and added better wording. You’re acting like I changed something after you replied.

              Saving for posterity bc you wolnt:

              What 4 branches are you referring to?

              Ya you never answered my question. What 4 branches are you referring to?

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                Don’t be dramatic. As soon as I posted I went back and added better wording. You’re acting like I changed something after you replied.

                You posted a half baked comment, then edited it after getting called out for having nothing but nitpicking. You got caught, and changed the substance of the comment from a reaction to one with an actual point after the fact - be an adult and own it; internet points have zero real world value, but rhetoric skills do matter offline.

                Ya you never answered my question. What 4 branches are you referring to?

                I already answered this, dw the link isn’t a rickroll you can click though on a citation:

                Honesty it’s a slip meaning the four houses (Senate, House, Executive, and Supreme Court) but given the way the media is fawning and exonerating Trump, the [fourth branch](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_branch_of_government) also fits

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                  No I posted this:

                  What 4 branches are you referring to?

                  Then added this immediately after hitting post/ before you posted:

                  Also, republicans won the majority of voters by constantly referring to democrats as being pro-lgbtq. To turn around and criticize the democrats for that is pretty shitty

                  I didn’t edit anything after your response only before. So it seems you are lying about that to make it look like I’m ninja editing my post. That says something about you.

                  You said this:

                  if I’m not permitted to post-mortem the DNC after a pathetic showing where they burned a billion dollars, with a B, and still lost all three (four even) branches of government

                  I asked which three (four even) branches of government are you referring to that were lost after “they burned a billion dollars” to stop fascism?

                  You responded with a wiki link about “Fourth branch of government” which doesn’t answer the question.

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                    That’s what I saw in my inbox, and that’s the comment I replied to. Maybe don’t go off half baked if you want to avoid this scenario? Put the whole thought down or add more context from the beginning.

                    I’m beginning to perceive this as low effort trolling/point scoring without an argument behind it. I cited a reference and explained the mental slip meaning houses (Senate, House, Presidency, and Supreme Court) and the parallel answer of fourth branch is right there - you’re being very obtuse or didn’t read the link:

                    While the term ‘fourth estate’ is used to emphasize the independence of the press, the fourth branch suggests that the press is not independent of the government. The concept of the news media or press as a fourth branch stems from a belief that the media’s responsibility to inform the populace is essential to the healthy functioning of democracy.

                    And given recent events, it fits: