Summary

Mass graves uncovered in Syria after Bashar al-Assad’s overthrow reveal evidence of systematic atrocities, with over 100,000 people tortured and killed in what a top war crimes prosecutor described as the worst abuses “since the Nazis.”

Assad’s regime operated a “machinery of death,” involving mass disappearances, torture, and secret burials.

Rebel forces freed thousands of political prisoners, but many remain missing.

International efforts aim to document war crimes, though Assad, now in Russia, is unlikely to face trial.

  • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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    18 hours ago

    Really? Nothing else since WWII has been this bad? I can think of three off the top of my head! Syria’s neighbor is doing a holocaust right now. It’s like they’re pretending that nothing bad has happened since the Nazis were defeated.

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      It’s going to take some time (and digging) to find out.

      However… events that unfolded in Cambodia will almost certainly have exceeded what is going to be discovered in Syria.

      Most likely the same can be said about things that happened in Indonesia.

      Events that continue to happen in North Korea may possibly exceed - once the place collapses and access becomes possible - which may take a century - what Bashar and his father managed to organize.

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      15 hours ago

      I agree with your point but I think the Palestinian genocide is a bad example. Imo better examples from the top of my mind: the Rwandan and Cambodian genocides likely were far worse both in absolute numbers and as a % of the population, and the policies of Maoist China got many more people killed.

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        14 hours ago

        Man, Mao’s policies got so many people killed that “only” 3-4m people died of famine.

        He’s got an incredible kill count.

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        12 hours ago

        The Palestinian genocide is happening right now, is my point. We don’t have to crawl through history to find atrocities.

        Indonesia after the CIA coup is another good example, or Iraq when we killed over a million people. This stuff is way more recent than WWII.

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          And the Palestinian genocide and your other examples aren’t “worse” in any metric (yet). The use and misrepresentation of those examples just tells us that you’re a tankie who engages in whataboutism and spreads untruths to build a narrative.

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      17 hours ago

      There are 100.000 bodies in a single mass grave. And that is just one out of five. That’s kinda in a league of its own.

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            14 hours ago

            Estimates are far higher than the official death toll - it’s hard to count bodies buried under the rubble.

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              12 hours ago

              Stop. Let the people of Syria be recognized for the horrors they lived through. Wtf is wrong with you?

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                10 hours ago

                I will not allow Palestinians to be erased! Or any of the other mass murders of over 100,000 people! This disrespects every atrocity that has happened since the end of WWII, by saying those ones either aren’t real or don’t count.

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                  4 hours ago

                  so because theres already a genocide no other genocides can exist? Yes, the Palestina genocide is bad, but that doesn’t mean posting about any other genocide is hate towards Palestinians.

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      15 hours ago

      Yes, nothing.

      No one here is claiming what Israel is doing isn’t horrible (hell, you’re the only one bringing it up). But, this is worse. Wild how there can be more than one bad thing and one being worse doesn’t make the other one not bad, isn’t it?

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        Don’t argue with a .ml user when they move the goalposts to be “America bad” without any context. It’s a losing battle.

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        14 hours ago

        This isn’t worse! The official death toll is a massive undercount, the real death toll is probably in the same order of magnitude.

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      17 hours ago

      You mean the country that is claiming Syrian sovereign space like the Golan Heights for their illegal settlements since the 90s?

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      16 hours ago

      How “whatabout” that.

      Stop trying to shove this news under the carpet with your “I know worse but I won’t tell you!!1!”

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        14 hours ago

        I’m trying to point out that history didn’t start and end in WWII, and pointing to something just as bad happening right now.

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          4 hours ago

          Oh, I didn’t see that you’re an “ml”

          Whatever works in your fantasy world and makes you happy 🤷🏼‍♀️

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      17 hours ago

      The Russians never stopped doing such things. Before, during and after WW2.