I’m deeply confused. I have a shitload of Zooz stuff that is long range. Does the whole star topology and everything. Is this some sort of new development? Or did the author miss the long range stuff that’s been available for a year now?
I’d be more inclined to trust LoRa for anything that needs that sort of distance.
KNX + zWave + esphome (especially when it gets matter support) will be the ultimate combo of reliability and flexibility!
KNX?
I read that and their website and still don’t know what it is? It’s neither hardware nor a protocol?
Mostly its really fucking expensive. Usual applications are central control of heating and window blinds in large office buildings.
Part of what drives the price is that ideally it’s all hard wired.
I’m still confused as to what the product is, that just sounds like commercial Home Assistant. What is hardwired? Some knx device similar to a Shelly?
Zwave is my first choice for new devices. Love that I can just scan the little QR code, turn it on, and have it come up in HA. Super-long range, I’m going to have to look for outdoor sensors.
But I’m also thinking - my parents are starting to have health problems - that a mile could even be a family member or friend’s house. Not as intrusive as cameras, but an easy way to see that they’re up and about…making coffee, TV on, or whatever, and not (potentially) collapsed in the shower unable to get up.
I’d rather set up a point-to-point wireless link with directional antennas and exactly two base stations than rely on every little IoT device having long range. Better yet, such a link could be high-bandwidth and capable of handling things like data backups and Internet access failover.
LoraWAN
I’ve read Shelly has bad life expectancy. (Don’t know about alternatives)
In what way?
Read of a guy who fitted his house with them and had to replace about a third or half after 3-4 years
Edit: After looking up “Shelly life expectancy” I’ve read more people who lose after 3 years functionality
Zigbee is a mess so this is great news
Why do you feel ZigBee is a mess?
Not the guy your asked, but I’d say everything proprietary is a mess, by definition.
ZigBee is an open standard
No it is not! It’s a standard, but is by no means an “open” one. Use of it requires paying royalties to the Zigbee Alliance.
Lack of certification leading to non-standard implementations that don’t work well with other devices and instability, especially Aqara
That’s certainly fair. Some of the implementations are terrible, leading to the necessity of things like https://github.com/doctor64/tuyaZigbee
It’s no wonder that ZigBee evolved into Matter
No idea what you’re talking about: https://software-dl.ti.com/simplelink/esd/simplelink_cc13x2_26x2_sdk/3.30.00.03/exports/docs/zigbee/html/zigbee/product_certification.html
https://zigbeealliance.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/07-4842-13-Zigbee-certification-policy.pdf
If you’re complaining that the Zigbee standard is open and anyone can write their own implementation, you might be in the wrong place.
Don’t buy non-certified Zigbee products. Simple as that.
Lolwut. Never had a single issue.
Me neither but it’s good to hear of others experiences
Maybe it’s just Sonoff products, but Zigbee has never been reliable for me, even for short distances and no walls. It just stops working, I go take the battery out of the device and it comes back.
