Users are unimpressed, eager to toss devices if test sticks.

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      Shut up. Stop making every thread about your piracy agenda. Nobody cares. And this isn’t even remotely related to the topic in this case. Apparently you don’t even know what Roku is.

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            It really doesn’t… Beyond the active “pirates” who would tell you to fuck off are the many MANY regular folks sympathetic to the cause. You live in a fantasy world where everyone else is as much of a tattletale pig boy as you are, friend. Especially on a thing like Lemmy, where the average user is an elder millennial, we all at e very least dipped our toes in e seven seas sorting the Napster/Kazaa days.i

            You live on an island, friend. And nobody wants to visit you there.

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              Everyone has pirated something when they were 15. I’m still pirating stuff sometimes to this day. But I don’t see it as my mission to spread it like a political agenda on every thread on the internet. Literally copy-paste without context. What’s the point of doing this? It’s really annoying especially when phrased so arrogantly, like it’s the only right thing to do and everyone should pirate because it’s some kind of political protest against big-tech or something. It’s all just bullshit coming from people who don’t want to pay but feel guilty about it, so instead of just admitting that they don’t want to pay they perform some moral gymnastics to rationalise their behaviour and keep the cognitive dissonance at bay. Just do your thing and let everyone do theirs.

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                Dude it is a protest against big tech. If companies were genuine and altrustic and stopped dunking their balls where it doesnt belong we wouldnt have so many problems in this world. So fuck em and fuck you

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                  You don’t get it… Your logic is flawed. By pirating, you support the current business practices. You encourage them to do more of it. Piracy is the worst kind of protest.

                  Let me explain: When everyone who disagrees with how big tech make profits leaves to do piracy, then the only people who are left paying are the people that suppport big-tech or don’t care. Consequently the exact thing you’re ‘protesting’ against becomes the most profitable and only way to make money. Guess where that leads the industry…

                  The only way of protest is with your money. Spend it on good alternatives so they become the next profitable thing.

                  “You don’t give me exactly what I want, so now I have the moral right to do whatever I want for as long as I please and I even do something good for humanity in the process”. Real altruism that is… In reality, this is only a justification to get shit for free. Just admit it and say it as it actually is. Also, stop spamming your agenda all over every thread.

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        Really shit the bed with that one m8, got something going on? Send me a dm and talk it out

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          Just take it elsewhere. I’m tired of seing the same comment about piracy on 75% of my threads recently. You don’t need to tell us you do piracy. You’re not actually on a mission. You can cope elsewhere.

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            say what you will, but piracy ensures that my copy of Brokeback Mountain will never be taken from me again.

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              I can do that without piracy aswell.

              But this is still totally off-topic as you cannot pirate Roku. It’s a device. Not a streaming service.

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                Then you don’t know what Roku is either. Because it’s definitely a steaming service, too.

                For example, they got the exclusive on Weird Al Yankovic’s “Weird”. I watched that on Roku. The first time. But I found the ads so grating that I pirated it so I could rewatch it without the annoyance.

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    We had one on our TV the other day. This will absolutely be our last Roku.

    In the meantime I immediately installed PiHole, to block all their ads.

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    Basically punishment for people who either don’t get their own streaming box/avoid tvs with roku built in.

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        It’s capitalism… When every CEO, Board Member, and shareholder wants a yacht, it’s literally never enough. They even created a term to describe this inevitable deterioration of every company’s product: enshittification.

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          It’s not that they all want yachts, they make enough to each buy multiple yachts. It’s just that nothing is ever enough. They don’t know what success is, so they chase the undefined feeling until they die unfulfilled. Fucking living dead and a cancer on collective humanity

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          Enshittification was coined for online services, which includes roku, but doesn’t apply to all products.

          Edit for the contrarians.

          Enshittification, also known as crapification and platform decay, is the term used to describe the pattern in which online products and services decline in quality over time. Initially, vendors create high-quality offerings to attract users, then they degrade those offerings to better serve business customers, and finally degrade their services to users and business customers to maximize profits for shareholders.

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    They’re not “smart” TVs. They’re TVs with shitty android spyware boxes attached.

    Stop using that garbage. Don’t connect it to a network, just use it as a display.

    If you need to watch YouTube on your TV go and grab an OSMC (Kodi-based OS for media boxes) media box. You can get a pre-built one for around $100, or install it yourself on a raspberry pi.

    These manufacturers depend on you being lazy and accepting their spyware. You will save yourself so much more headache in the long run if you control your own hardware and software.

    Trying to navigate through the world without some minimal knowledge of computers means you’re going to get taken by every scam like what Roku is pulling.

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        Yeah, every product that they sell will do it.

        Using something like OSMC (or buying a Vero is you don’t want to mess around with the setup) will let you control what runs on your player.

        Until you do that, you’re paying some random company while also giving root access on a device in your house and letting them waste your time with ads.

        All you get out of the deal is avoiding having to learn how to use a new piece of software. A Pyrrhic victory due to the fact that you have to learn to use Roku.

        I’d rather spend a few hours learning how to setup Kodi. It’s free software, you don’t pay for it and it’s Free software, you control it with no strings attached.

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          My big issue with kodi is that i like my media library to be human navigable and named and it does not. Dealbreaker

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            Kodi doesn’t organize your media, you use other applications for that (tinymediamanager, sonarr/radarr, etc).

            The default library layout, for Plex/Jellyfin/Kodi is very human navigable, for example TV Shows are in this format:

            TV Show Name
             |-Season 1
             |-Season 2
             |-\-S02E01-Episode_Name.mkv
            

            There may be a few extra files in the directories depending on what metadata you’re storing and what you’re pulling from the Internet, but it is organized and navigable.

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              aight, I never said that Kodi organises media, if it tried to, I would shoot it on sight.

              I organise my media, ebcause it’s media I’ve decided I want to keep and organise accordingly. Kodi has very specific requirements and cracks the shits if you don’t give it exactly what it wants. If that fine for you, then that’s fine for you. That is not how I roll

              how I do roll:

              -> \fileserver
              –> Sci fi series
              —> Babylon 5
              ----> 1.01 - Midnight on the Firing Line
              ----> …
              ----> 2.01 - Points of Departure

              etc etc etc.

              I’ve played with a translation file so Kodi’s file scrapers can understand that X is Y and react accordingly, but it’s very “my way or the highway” and I don’t bow to a machine. When it refuses to even acknowledge the existence of a file (as in just display the file name, not necessary with any metadata) unless it can jam its thumb up there, I’m out.

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                I understand, I used to manually organize my own files as well.

                When I’m given the choice of user interfaces. Choosing between a file browser and something like Kodi, Plex or Jellyfin seems pretty easy, to me.

                Even with the most organized file system, a file browser just isn’t a good UI for a media player interface. No user tracking (watched episodes, saving progress or playlists), for example.

                That being said, everyone’s use case is different. There isn’t a “right” way, but in a multiuser environment across multiple types of devices with non-technical users it’s much easier and feature rich to simply use Kodi/Plex/Jellyfin.

                Trying to setup direct access to the file system of a media server which could be accessible by Android/Apple phones, video game consoles, smart TVs as well as Linux and Windows clients would be more complex than just using a media interface and a standardized media directory structure.

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                  ok. Please stop trying to convince me to change to something I do not want to.

                  I stated my issue with Kodi. If there’s no solution to that issue then it’s a dealbreaker, like I said.

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      News to me, what Roku do?

      I mean the sticks and boxes, not the TV’s themselves, I get those suck.

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        I don’t understand the question. I’m reacting to this story, what the company is doing, without distinction between the branded TVs and peripheral devices.