whatever. Even though we people who were from other countries would have thrown parades for them if they were straight or closeted? Am I kind of missing how many lives he saved part? Did he not get any recognition coming home?

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    He didn’t come home per se because his work was performed in the UK. On top of that, much of his work was classified until after his death, so his contemporaries didn’t really know of his contributions. I also don’t agree with the idea that other places would have been ok with his sexuality as homosexuality was not accepted in most places during the 40’s and 50’s. The Lavender Scare of the period comes to mind.

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    Wait till you hear about what they did to the men with the pink triangles when they liberated everyone else from concentration camps

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    Yes, and this is both bad and a side effect of something good. In that particular time and place you’d get that treatment, cruel or not, by the rules generally. We are entering something more like new Middle Ages, and I think now I liked those more when they were in the past. It’s nice to read Sapkowski’s Narrenturm from a warm chair with thyme and mint tea in your mug, but some gruesome shit happens there.

    About one man saving the world you might be overdramatising things. There are quite a few mathematicians who’ve contributed to this, and chronologically in the beginning they are all Polish, as another user said.

    Yes. Heroes do the hero thing, then go home and get humiliated and abused by cowards. This is such an old story that it shouldn’t surprise anyone.

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      Okay and? History is filled with oversimplifying big achievements. People love to pick one person and claim they are the reason why it happened, but it doesn’t mean the person wasn’t an important part to the achievement. Yes, Turing had help. But Turing deserves the credit he gets, especially where he didn’t get it during his lifetime. Meanwhile we should also prop up those that helped WITHOUT tearing Turing down to do it. You don’t have to try to make Turing’s achievements seem less important or spectacular in order to highlight he wasn’t the only person involved and that others also deserve attention.