- Die in a few weeks? No
- Get more users than reddit? No
- Be a place in the long run for privacy minded people to escape corporatism and have discussions about any topic? Yes
Let’s be real, most of the growth of Reddit over the last 5 or so years haven’t been the type of folks generating good content and discussion anyway. Even if Lemmy gets like 1% of the userbase this place is going to thrive.
A large majority of the content posted there seems to be from bot accounts. No matter what you think Reddit’s active userbase is, it is heavily inflated.
I see a ton of support, thousands are making the jump and dozens of apps are being made/getting updated now. Seems Lemmy/Kbin will only grow from here as long as there’s no major setbacks
It was here before the Reddit implosion, will be after. Question is, will you be?
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Glad to hear it. I deleted 2 accounts with over 100k karama, and moved fully to Lemmy. I’m here to stay as well. Reddit is dead to me.
100%, 12 year daily reddit user - feels like I’m out of a bad relationship. I moved all my third party apps off three weeks ago and have replaced all my time with Lemmy and the Fediverse.
I didn’t realize how poorly the experience had degraded - scrolling content mindlessly, most interactions were dull and sometimes weirdly antagonistic.
Conversely, my experience on Lemmy has been interesting content with more depth, connecting with people in a warm and welcoming way. I don’t expect this to become reddit - I wouldn’t really want it to.
I am excited for a future here as the third party apps are removed last this week and we can start a new adventure together.
Even if this does become reddit, here at lemmy.world, just move to a different Instance, block lemmy.world, and boom. Problem solved.
Would not take long to do. I expect many people will do just this. We’re probably going to be one of the most commonly defederated-with Instances, just due to being the largest and thus, spammiest.
But also the one with the most content as well.
Spam control really depends on the ability of the admins and moderation, as well as the quality of the mod tools. Lemmy is nowhere near the size of reddit yet for that to be a problem.
It’s more fun talking to folks than bots.
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Same. I’m not going back. Also, Lemmy/kbin have become way more active than before. I hope they gain more traction.
Was using RiF and reddit for 12 years. Been on lemmy for a few weeks and I don’t miss reddit. Certainly not going to try to use the official reddit app. So probably not using reddit even if I wanted to in the future.
Lemmy was here before Reddit and it’ll be around for a long time.
Presumably you mean Lemmy was here before the recent reddit implosion
Correct. Good catch.
Hmmm the main question is whether it can get it’s content to show up in search results - this being the main selling point of Reddit and other platforms.
Right now, if you help someone fix an issue it’s pretty much walled in and unavailable.
Yeah, I was talking to my wife about this.
Today I can search “whatever reddit”, but with Lemmy-like I have no idea how, since it’s not centralized.
agreed, is there any way to fix this?
i’m fairly certain that it really just depends on the google web crawlers to find and index pages. but if the posts are public that’s just a matter of time.
even with reddit, a post has a new URL so takes some time to be indexed by google or other search engines.
so maybe it’s just a matter of delivering relevant content over time so that lemmy results get preferred over others
Yes, getting lemmy’s link high enough on google that it can even be compared to reddit’s is a critical but immensely difficult battle to fight since the latter has 18 years of inertia, I guess it all comes down to a matter of pumping the OC and high quality content consistently for a very long time
im seeing content from both my instance and beehaw’s in google’s results. stands to reason every instance is in there. I expect that the software likely needs optimizations before everything is properly indexed. before reddit google simply indexed thousands of phpbb and invision boards.
SEOs, search engine optimizations. (Only devs not me 😩 could do that)
This isn’t true. SEO has been optimized to find good content that engaged users. Long gone are the days of cramming together keyword lists and throwing a few meta tags to rank high. Write high quality (preferably long form) content and it will pay dividends.
Source: I’ve worked in digital marketing too long.
I don’t think it’ll die… but it is a community that needs to be built basically from the ground up, while both the Lemmy/fediverse backend technology and infrastructure are actively being developed. Reddit refugees who want a drop-in alternative to doomscroll will probably be the first to leave.
The success or failure will be determined by the number of people willing to make an effort to post. Whether Lemmy (or the fediverse in general) will exceed the numbers of other services… I doubt it, but we wouldn’t be here if we only cared about numbers.
Personal opinion: activity will spike around now, then plateau not much lower than its peak. It’ll probably never be as popular as Reddit. I imagine most people will run into some minor inconvenience, then never try to use it again, and the rest of us will be here for years.
I guess a big spike is still ahead, which will be around Saturday, once the 3rd party reddit apps shut down for good.
This place has existed for a lot longer than the last month.
I think the entry barrier is still higher than reddit. So I doubt we’ll see reddit users migrate by the millions because not everyone believes in free and open platforms like most of us do. But I’m excited to see what happens on Saturday when 3rd party apps shut down.
undefined> because not everyone believes in free and open platforms like most of us do
It’s more the “masses” don’t care, they want instant and easy gratification. Doesn’t matter in the least platform the content is on as long as it satisfies their needs/wants at that moment.
Mate, it wasn’t just created. This site has been around for a while
Lemmy will last because it was already around. I don’t think it will die in a few weeks. Today is my first day using it and I love it. I’m sure anyone who tries it will like it, too.
Been here a week or so - definitely different but I’m enjoying it. Less mindless scrolling, just good chats.
Yes.
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I think people will vent and quite a decent percentage will return to reddit eventually. Like it happened with twitter since Elon did his thing. But lemmy will stay. It has been here before all the people migrated from reddit and the fediverse in general will keep having a right to exist. And it will.
AFAIK, Mastodon actually did gain a sizeable amount of users that actually stayed, even though the number of users has dropped since the peak.
I personally think something like Lemmy works better than Mastodon, since content is more important here than the users, which I think makes it more easy to have a self-sustaining community.
When Reddit forces “new Reddit” is when the real migration will occur. Reddit is dying more and more every day.
But they promised us that old reddit isn’t going anywhere. Surely, we can trust that something won’t happen if they say it won’t happen, right?
You can trust that it won’t happen in the next fifteen minutes, probably. I wouldn’t believe much further out than that.
I think the 3PA devs got about four months, right?
Reddit in January: we will not charge for the API. Not in the next few years, at least.
Reddit in April: charges are coming, but they’ll be totally reasonable and based in reality
Reddit in May: if you want to use the API, you should pay us 29x what we make from customers that don’t use it
Two things to bear in mind…
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Lemmy existed before this current reddit fiasco, so it will exist after
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there are a critical mass of users now, and imo the userbase will continue to grow, with more and more unique content added
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Android / iOS apps are out, and in development. Mod tools are coming (iirc). As fediverse becomes less technical / easier to use, it’s only going to attract more people
I think it’s likely that we’re only seeing the first wave as well. The ones most affected by third party app shutdowns are the ones that are posting all of the content and doing the moderation. Once the apps go away, it’s likely the most valuable of reddit’s users do as well. I have been on reddit since like 07 I think, and once I can’t use Apollo any longer my use of reddit is effectively gone. I’ll still occasionally browse on desktop, but even then the only way I can tolerate the desktop version is with a bunch of add ons and old.reddit which I assume is next on the block.
We’ve already seen this on twitter. Now it’s just an echo chamber for nazis, increasingly fewer celebs, and marketers (which, tbh it kinda always has been, it’s just worse now.) Moving over to mastodon wasn’t fun for a week or two, but now there is a critical mass and basically everything I got from twitter I can get from masto now. Twitter still has tons of users and dwarfs masto, but that’s a lot of chaff for not a lot of wheat.
In terms of apps, some are out, but there is still nothing that comes close to Apollo especially on iOS. With the dev of Sync and I think RIF announcing Lemmy clients, that’s about going to be a done deal. Quite a lot of my regular follows from twitter didn’t move over until Ivory and a couple of other good clients came out, so as soon as there is a comparable set of Lemmy clients, I’d say it’s pretty much done.
All that said, Reddit’s already a shell of what it was even a few months ago. It’s maybe not as easy to tell, but as someone who’s been there forever, you can tell this is different. And I know personally, even though I used reddit like junkies used meth, I’m now checking rss again, discord for various communities, Lemmy, kbin, and even a few specific forums and so forth.
Spez running an absolute master class in how to ruin a business.
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Define “a few weeks”
The blackout started 12-06 which is 2 + weeks ago.
Lemmy and Kbin are still here and I see no sign of it slowing down. I see much more posts with more engagement which is a good thing.
