Will you build a competitor? Move to one of the existing alternatives?
I’ve received so many messages of kind people offering to work with me to build a competitor to Reddit, and while I’m very flattered, that’s not something I’m interested in doing. I’m a product guy, I like building fun apps for people to use, and I’m just not personally interested in something more managerial.
These last several months have also been incredibly exhausting and mentally draining, I don’t have it in me to engage in something so enormous.
I think what he’s getting at here is people asking him about building an alternative platform to Reddit - much like Lemmy, Kbin, Tildes, etc. are - as opposed to an app serving as the frontend for an existing alternative platform. I’ve seen poeple buzzing about that on some of those threads about Apollo on Reddit. Those people are so in denial, and there were so many of them, that I couldn’t conjure to effort to point how ridiculous that idea is. Some people did, and were quickly shut down with the usual complaints (fediverse is confusing / doesn’t work, etc.)
The whole insistence that the fediverse is too complicated is so strange to me. People are acting like you need to know how to federate multiple servers in order to make/read posts. It’s been exactly the same experience as setting up an account on any other website for me. The only difference is I had to spend five minutes understanding what an instance and how to find communities on instances that are not my own.
Some people are just fundamentally resistant to any kind of change, I suppose.
I thought I was getting the hang of it until I couldn’t find communities. I pasted the link into jerboa and it still can’t find it… I can see the community on a feddit directory but I can’t find it in jerboa.
I agree. It’s just people being lazy and resistant to change. The irony is that it was exactly those “big techs” that bred this kind of behavior on them, now they turn around to criticize those big techs, but have no spine to do what actually takes to change that, so they keep on taking the abuse.
This is good to see. While I kind of like the affect this knowledge filter has had on the quality of the communities here on the fediverse, it’s more important that we can build something that lets people connect without someone feeling the need to monetize it beyond covering upkeep costs.
Ok I had read that too. A different interpretation of your take on that is that he builds products (the app that accesses content) not the whole platform itself (Reddit or Lemmy). So it’s still possible he could build an app for Lemmy. He just wouldn’t try to build the whole ecosystem like Lemmy is.
I know Christian mentioned he wouldn’t port Apollo to Lemmy, but I haven’t given up hope just yet!
I didn’t know that, he say why?
He mentioned it in his “Apollo will close down on June 30th” post on /r/ApolloApp (I’m linking it here, but here’s the quote so you don’t have to gift Reddit your traffic):
I think what he’s getting at here is people asking him about building an alternative platform to Reddit - much like Lemmy, Kbin, Tildes, etc. are - as opposed to an app serving as the frontend for an existing alternative platform. I’ve seen poeple buzzing about that on some of those threads about Apollo on Reddit. Those people are so in denial, and there were so many of them, that I couldn’t conjure to effort to point how ridiculous that idea is. Some people did, and were quickly shut down with the usual complaints (fediverse is confusing / doesn’t work, etc.)
The whole insistence that the fediverse is too complicated is so strange to me. People are acting like you need to know how to federate multiple servers in order to make/read posts. It’s been exactly the same experience as setting up an account on any other website for me. The only difference is I had to spend five minutes understanding what an instance and how to find communities on instances that are not my own.
Some people are just fundamentally resistant to any kind of change, I suppose.
I thought I was getting the hang of it until I couldn’t find communities. I pasted the link into jerboa and it still can’t find it… I can see the community on a feddit directory but I can’t find it in jerboa.
It may be a bug, I’ve been seeing some weird quirks in Jeroba myself, though I’ll admit I’m still figuring it out.
I agree. It’s just people being lazy and resistant to change. The irony is that it was exactly those “big techs” that bred this kind of behavior on them, now they turn around to criticize those big techs, but have no spine to do what actually takes to change that, so they keep on taking the abuse.
and pretty soon you won’t even need that level of information
https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/issues/1113
https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/issues/1048
Once these are solved, it’ll be identical to reddit in terms of knowledge needed.
This is good to see. While I kind of like the affect this knowledge filter has had on the quality of the communities here on the fediverse, it’s more important that we can build something that lets people connect without someone feeling the need to monetize it beyond covering upkeep costs.
Apollo set the bar for the next app to meet/exceed.
Ok I had read that too. A different interpretation of your take on that is that he builds products (the app that accesses content) not the whole platform itself (Reddit or Lemmy). So it’s still possible he could build an app for Lemmy. He just wouldn’t try to build the whole ecosystem like Lemmy is.