I find this one fascinating. I’m trying to follow this thought process.
“Stalin is an evil Russian Dictator! and these evil tankies worship him! Putin is also an evil Russian Dictator therefore these evil tankies will agree with anything he says because they like Russian Dictators!”
This person honestly seems to think solely in terms of “sports team politics” and doesn’t seem to understand that people can believe or not believe something based on evidence, not on what “their team” says is true.
bro you cannot be serious…“hmm why would putin and his oligarchic bros spread misinformation about socialism” dont tell me you’re one of those liberals who think russia is still socialist
Stalin was one of the socialist leaders of the USSR that was present to be the leader when the Nazis were trying to slaughter them for their race and their way of life. Stalin acted as a leader and the people emerged victorious, which helped Stalin act as an avatar representing Socialism on earth. This cult of personality was not encouraged, but the effect remained. Stalin in Russia is the human meme representation of socialism.
I won’t say that all socialist projects need to look like what Stalin created. However spreading lies about what Stalin did as a socialist leader is undermining the socialist project as a whole in Russia. Putin is an anti-communist that seeks to undermine socialism in Russia, thus he lies about Stalin.
Putin does praise Stalin in implicit like in Valdai conference of 2016 , he said if USSR didn’t centralize resources, education, military industrial complex then Russia as a nation wouldn’t have survived. Also Putin has banned comparing Stalin to Hitler. No doubt Putin dislikes communists but he is not pro Hitler or equates USSR to fascism. Although Putin and entourage are not communists hates progressive ideological standpoint. But don’t worry 71 percent of Russians love Stalin. Actually to know Stalin you have to talk to old Russians who were under Stalin rule and most of them loved the time.
Not getting guillotined. Why are libs completely incapable of empathising with people acting in self-serving ways? If the Russian youth are educated on the benefits of a revolution, they’ll want a revolution. If they’re told maintaining the status quo is for everyone’s benefit, they’ll want to keep the status quo where Putin is rich and headed.
You could ask the same question about the CIA or the counter revolutionary forces around the world or the Western press. Why is it that people who are part of the bourgeoisie do their best to discredit socialists efforts? Socialist theorists would say it is to distract the working class from looking beyond capitalism, creating an imaginary enemy in the alternative option that is socialism.
All bourgeois leaders and especially those in post-socialist countries have a vested interest in denigrating and slandering the political and economic system of the Soviet Union because that is the best way to prevent a resurgence of enthusiasm for socialism which is a threat to their power and the capitalist system they have built.
Gee, what would capitalist system, existing only because the previous one was brutally and unlawfully destroyed against the will of the peopl, gain on smearing that previous system.
For a culture and civilisation supposedly build on Roman roots westerners awfully rarily seem to ask fundamental question of “qui bono?”.
It’s bullshit no matter who says it - and especially a notorious anti-communist liberal like Putin - because it’s simply not borne out by the evidence.
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“babe wake up! The Dictator of a capitalist, imperialist country said that insert socialist has killed lots of people”
I find this one fascinating. I’m trying to follow this thought process.
“Stalin is an evil Russian Dictator! and these evil tankies worship him! Putin is also an evil Russian Dictator therefore these evil tankies will agree with anything he says because they like Russian Dictators!”
This person honestly seems to think solely in terms of “sports team politics” and doesn’t seem to understand that people can believe or not believe something based on evidence, not on what “their team” says is true.
No but Putin is a known conservative* anticommunist
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bro you cannot be serious…“hmm why would putin and his oligarchic bros spread misinformation about socialism” dont tell me you’re one of those liberals who think russia is still socialist
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Stalin was one of the socialist leaders of the USSR that was present to be the leader when the Nazis were trying to slaughter them for their race and their way of life. Stalin acted as a leader and the people emerged victorious, which helped Stalin act as an avatar representing Socialism on earth. This cult of personality was not encouraged, but the effect remained. Stalin in Russia is the human meme representation of socialism.
I won’t say that all socialist projects need to look like what Stalin created. However spreading lies about what Stalin did as a socialist leader is undermining the socialist project as a whole in Russia. Putin is an anti-communist that seeks to undermine socialism in Russia, thus he lies about Stalin.
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Putin does praise Stalin in implicit like in Valdai conference of 2016 , he said if USSR didn’t centralize resources, education, military industrial complex then Russia as a nation wouldn’t have survived. Also Putin has banned comparing Stalin to Hitler. No doubt Putin dislikes communists but he is not pro Hitler or equates USSR to fascism. Although Putin and entourage are not communists hates progressive ideological standpoint. But don’t worry 71 percent of Russians love Stalin. Actually to know Stalin you have to talk to old Russians who were under Stalin rule and most of them loved the time.
Not getting guillotined. Why are libs completely incapable of empathising with people acting in self-serving ways? If the Russian youth are educated on the benefits of a revolution, they’ll want a revolution. If they’re told maintaining the status quo is for everyone’s benefit, they’ll want to keep the status quo where Putin is rich and headed.
You could ask the same question about the CIA or the counter revolutionary forces around the world or the Western press. Why is it that people who are part of the bourgeoisie do their best to discredit socialists efforts? Socialist theorists would say it is to distract the working class from looking beyond capitalism, creating an imaginary enemy in the alternative option that is socialism.
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His disdain for the soviet union, which he regularly discusses.
I am sorry are you believing in putin’s words now? Ok russiabot
All bourgeois leaders and especially those in post-socialist countries have a vested interest in denigrating and slandering the political and economic system of the Soviet Union because that is the best way to prevent a resurgence of enthusiasm for socialism which is a threat to their power and the capitalist system they have built.
Gee, what would capitalist system, existing only because the previous one was brutally and unlawfully destroyed against the will of the peopl, gain on smearing that previous system.
For a culture and civilisation supposedly build on Roman roots westerners awfully rarily seem to ask fundamental question of “qui bono?”.
It’s bullshit no matter who says it - and especially a notorious anti-communist liberal like Putin - because it’s simply not borne out by the evidence.