So my SDE pick is gonna time out soon, and I’m kind of at a loss for who to pick. I’ve narrowed it to the three mentioned, but am unsure which way to go.

Yakumo seems particularly risky with his self-harm mechanic, so I’m thinking that his isn’t a great YOLO choice.

Iphi is a shade setter, and has the blood contract thing that should help me with bosses (I’m not a power player by any stretch), while Sesta is a powerful nuke and wind setter.

Does anyone have any (all?) these characters and able to offer some more insight? I’m F2P outside SDEs, so getting characters is very random for me.

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    No dupes on my end, so it appears to be fixed. I’d also recommend Iphi, she’s got the most overall utility and Shade Zone works for any DPS since she can convert them to Shade for a turn.

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    I do have them all, and undeniably use Iphi more, but also keep in mind that Iphi is a substantial enabler of many of the new, modern style of Meta chars where more damage is done outside rather than inside of AF - which I find a helluva lot more fun, compared to pianoing in AF!:-P - so like Yakumo + Iphi and Sesta + Iphi and Minalca + Iphi etc. are all significantly better teams than without Iphi. Iphi also offers a great deal more in her kit than a mere DPS, meaning that she will hold onto at least one of her many roles during battle much easier, e.g. Iphi + AS Necoco can turn your entire team into shade-dealers to substitute for Yakumo. Iphi also offers the most UNIQUE utility among these three, or among any character in the entire game really.

    I almost hesitate to reveal this spoiler but since it may be a crucial part of the answer (anyone skip forward to the next paragraph if you truly do not want to know…): AS Melody is coming in the next update, who will also deploy an awakened wind zone, and will be the first character in the game who can do so reliably over & over again (although not on turn #1 iirc). And also AS Noahxis is coming in the same update, who will offer the game’s first free/story character option for barrier piercing. So part of Sesta’s charm is already starting to wane, or at least someone could try to argue that, but really what it means is that Sesta + AS Melody will work together to become unstoppable, being able to re-deploy wind zone sth like every 4th turn! (and if RCF was on the front-lines when it was deployed, it will last all the way through to the next one, b/c he extends another zone +2 turns) Sesta really is so “fun”, like a big puzzle to connect her to so many other characters in the game:-).

    Don’t forget that Yakumo has a side-kick, like Minalca, except in his case it offers a more specific pairing with him than anyone else. That said… skuLd was telling me about a 1TnoAF for Wyverus using Kumos’ Break status, even without Yakumo on the team. Kumos helps cover for a LOT of Yakumo’s inherent failings - see e.g. this video of his for a REALLY hard superboss, and note how Iphi helps keep him alive outside of AF. She sets up both P&P and Type resist and stat mitigation, in a different skill provides mental focus while also deploying shade zone and also reinstating blood contracts on everyone, and the description of her kit just keeps going on and on and on (offering knockback resistance, barrier piercing to others, etc. -> much of which while not unique is still extremely useful; and some like shade zone setting IS unique!:-P). Don’t get me wrong: Yakumo still has a TREMENDOUS amount to offer a team all on his own, but yeah his MP would get depleted a helluva lot faster inside AF (without Kumos being able to regenerating it), if he did not have someone (Prai, AS Radias, AS Soira, etc.) tanking for him to keep him alive outside of AF - plus also note that he has an MP shell, which sounds nice for his survivability except that too further depletes his MP, thus it occurs at the expense of his DPS. Also he isn’t great at 1TnoAFs, needing someone to set that for him - like ES Mariel, AS Milsha, etc., although once again, Iphi can get it done for him, which she actually does automatically upon battle start, and also whenever she chooses again later (his pet can also do it, but not upon battle start).

    Of the three, the one that I like the most and “enjoy” the most is Sesta… but in large measure that is b/c she can get it done WITH Iphi’s support, who again is the best at enabling that noAF style of play that I enjoy with her (although again, there ARE other defensive supports, just none that are all-around as good, plus Iphi actually pairs well alongside them - e.g. diverting attacks onto AS Soira, who then negates them; also I should add that about half of my clears use Sesta without Iphi…but the absolute HARDEST content needs Iphi). But purely for utility, it is Iphi who is the mainstay of most modern teams. In fact, the main reason to NOT get her is if you felt that it made the game too easy… and yet even then, she offers a great and fairly unique character quest, so she would still be a good choice for an SDE.:-)

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      Yeah, I’m thinking Iphi is probably the better choice for me. The extra lives alone is really hard to ignore. Once you add in the synergies, she’s probably the character with the longest life of the three from a meta perspective.

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        Precisely - it’s similar to Alma and Orleya where if nothing else they will remain useful as zone setters, and then once they are there for that, there is quite a bit more they have to offer as well.

        The only downside is that Iphi is quite complicated to fully understand all that she does. The flip side is that more than anyone else in the game, SHE is worth the effort!:-)

        So from a Meta perspective, definitely her.

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    Not sure what happened with your connection/Kbin there, but this posted four times.

    I’d probably say Iphi of those three. Her blood contract is somewhat ridiculous. I have absolutely gone into fights quite lazily and not sufficiently mitigated damage, or made mistakes that have gotten people killed, and they just pop straight back up again. She does combo with Yakumo extremely well also, but if you can only have one or the other, I feel like Iphi will get you further. Also, the design of her character quest is quite interesting.

    I think we should be getting the free multi post-update for completing the survey if you did that, so if your SDE lasts long enough, you could see whether that decreases your options at all, but that would probably be too lucky!

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      lol. It kept telling me it 50x’d out and the threads weren’t updating either. I’ll see if I can fix it.

      Thanks for the advice. I did do the survey, but haven’t gotten the pull yet. I’ve been trying to get Sesta to no success. Iphi giving you extra chances is REALLY tempting. Maybe that’s the answer right there.

      EDIT:
      So the multiple posts were in my user view, but still not in the magazine for me. Oh kbin. :]
      Okay, extras should be deleted. Hopefully. Maybe. I think…

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      Exactly this, written well and succinctly!:-)

      I will say that Sesta is more “fun”, yet dependent upon others to more fully bring her out.

      And yet Yakumo also offers his pet for use to the entire party, which can also be very helpful, but especially in conjunction with himself to mitigate what would otherwise be his shortcomings.