The Florida governor and Republican presidential hopeful suggested that one way to reduce abortions is to force men to pay child support from conception.
Well, at least that’s a logically consistent position in the issue, even if I vehemently disagree with their broader stance. Of course, they would need to extend that to allow women to claim unborn children as dependents in their taxes, allow women to drive in the HOV lane alone with their fetus, etc.
I LOL’d at the quote about men not liking that, and paying child support from the time of conception was dumb. Yeah, no shit, dumbass. There goes your logical inconsistency again.
It may seem consistent but Republicans aren’t going to extend benefits to people that logically follow from this. Not without a SCOTUS case. They don’t care about logic, they care about hurting women.
They don’t care about logic, they care about hurting women.
100%. There are plenty of studies showing that abortion bans lead to more unsafe abortions and worse health outcomes for women and children, besides “pro-life” sentiment explaining very little of the left-right difference in abortion stance.
Who has a DNA test? Who’s forced to take one? Are they going to make every guy the girl knows take a DNA test to enforce this? Can they? What if the guy split a week ago and no one’s seen him? What if no one has any idea who she fucked and she hasn’t seen him since a party everyone was drunk at?
This isn’t enforceable in most situations unless the father claims to be the father. So… don’t, if you want an easy out?
I mean sure, but you could also be an adult and claim the baby as yours if it is yours. If you don’t want a baby try contraception. I get it sometimes mistakes happen, but that’s the risk you take when playing that particular game.
Thats just a shitty argument. That argument will never help anyone facing these issues in reality cause they are just fuckin’. You can try to act like most humans plan ahead, they don’t. We know this is what happens, but nobody is a saint here resisting all their primal urges.
Well, at least that’s a logically consistent position in the issue, even if I vehemently disagree with their broader stance. Of course, they would need to extend that to allow women to claim unborn children as dependents in their taxes, allow women to drive in the HOV lane alone with their fetus, etc.
I LOL’d at the quote about men not liking that, and paying child support from the time of conception was dumb. Yeah, no shit, dumbass. There goes your logical inconsistency again.
It may seem consistent but Republicans aren’t going to extend benefits to people that logically follow from this. Not without a SCOTUS case. They don’t care about logic, they care about hurting women.
100%. There are plenty of studies showing that abortion bans lead to more unsafe abortions and worse health outcomes for women and children, besides “pro-life” sentiment explaining very little of the left-right difference in abortion stance.
I don’t know if they want to hurt them, per se. I think they want to control them
Depends on the color of their skin.
Well, that’s unfortunately true…
The party that actively fights to take away support to actual alive people are against this too? Shocker
It’s the party of SmAlL gOvErNmEnt
Isn’t banning things making the government bigger?
What if everyone is denying being the father?
Who has a DNA test? Who’s forced to take one? Are they going to make every guy the girl knows take a DNA test to enforce this? Can they? What if the guy split a week ago and no one’s seen him? What if no one has any idea who she fucked and she hasn’t seen him since a party everyone was drunk at?
This isn’t enforceable in most situations unless the father claims to be the father. So… don’t, if you want an easy out?
I mean sure, but you could also be an adult and claim the baby as yours if it is yours. If you don’t want a baby try contraception. I get it sometimes mistakes happen, but that’s the risk you take when playing that particular game.
Or you can just allow, you know, abortion for women that don’t want the child either. Mitigating the risk in all ways possible should be allowed 😉
Thats just a shitty argument. That argument will never help anyone facing these issues in reality cause they are just fuckin’. You can try to act like most humans plan ahead, they don’t. We know this is what happens, but nobody is a saint here resisting all their primal urges.
Are you suggesting that folks shouldn’t “play that particular game” i.e. have sex?