automod filters made reddit an absolute nightmare. pouring my heart out on the depression sub and getting it removed because it didn’t have 300 characters or it was image post saturday or god knows what. you basically just don’t get to post on any sizable sub — before it was at least a lottery! post, see if people will like it! but now you can’t even get a post through!

there are 50 automod filters on everything, forbidden words or topics, perfectly good questions cast away to megathreads no one reads!

it’s a dire, awful landscape, and really terrible user experience, having something on your chest and wanting to post, but oh hey this won’t be posted until our ‘mod team’ ‘reviews’ it. isn’t that what voting is for? please stop treating me like a spambot or troll by default!

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    Its reddit, so what you really mean is “karma requirements pretty much just force you express opinions the botfarms and terminally online agree with for a while”

    I could deal with the doxxing and such by just routinely deleting my account to maintain opsec (deleted a bunch of high karma accounts). The reason I finally left reddit was the downvote brigades for any opinions that weren’t specifically aligned with the zeitgeist.

    What’s even the point? If I want my opinions artificially implanted in me, I’ll just go watch cable news.

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    Your post has been removed for violating the following rules:

    • Your post title must contain a location (e.g. [Kansas, USA])

    • Image posting is not allowed on Free Talk Friday

    • Your post contains a common topic–post it in our weekly Common Topics thread

    • Your post must contain at least one lowercase letter, one capital letter, one number, and one special character (excluding underscores and spaces)

    • Your post cannot contain any dictionary words or common names

    I’m gonna go through my old reddit messages and see what subreddits I’ve been banned from and why

    You’ve been banned from /r/GamingCircleJerk not for breaking any rules, but for making a joke one of our mods doesn’t like (I said “kill me now please” in response to journalists showing footage of actual literal Russian soldiers being actually literally killed, describing said footage as “Call Of Duty style”)

    You’ve been banned from /r/JusticeServed for pointing out that Donald Trump got vaccinated in /r/Conservative

    You’ve been banned from /r/LateStageCapitalism for arguing with conservatives in a variety of subreddits

    You’ve been banned from /r/WitchesVsPatriarchy for arguing with libertarians in /r/PoliticalCompassMemes. You may appeal this ban.

    In your appeal, you must:

    1. Explain your participation in a subreddit that promulgates hate speech and brigades other subreddits
    1. Explain why you feel you should be unbanned
    1. Explain your feelings on the Patriarchy.
    1. Your appeal must contain the words “Formal Ban Appeal”, otherwise it will not be considered

    Appeals submitted without these four elements will not be considered.

    ^(Actual real text from the /r/WitchesVsPatriarchy mod team)

    I’m ashamed of how many of these bans I tried to appeal instead of just logging into my alternate account to evade them

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      /r/JusticeServed had the biggest pussies for mods I’ve ever seen … like ever.

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        Every subreddit I listed had the biggest pussies for mods. I didn’t include any subreddits where my appeal was accepted without the mods saying something along the lines of “you’d better behave yourself this time”

        Shout-out to /r/me_irlgbt mods for being chill and immediately unbanning me because I only visited /r/conspiracy to argue with flearthers

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      I just have to say, your punctuation and grammar are immaculate.

      Are you some kind of mod or English professor?

      Perfect formatting, 5/7.

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      I just made new accounts constantly on Reddit because they’d ban you for basically nothing from a ton of the major subreddits. Aquire a few bans, nuke account and start over was how I interacted with the platform recently.

      I had my original account for years before I got a single ban. I think the moderation teams just got overtaxed and started throwing down the ban hammer for about anything. Plenty of bans just for saying something whoever reviewed it didn’t agree with. Have to love enforcing an echo chamber and killing all discussion.

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        Same, which also meant I was unable to participate in many places because of ridiculous karma requirements.

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    man am i the only one who had no problems with automod? either y’all needed to visit better subs or the problem wasn’t on the reddit side…

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      Yea bad rules for automod (ex. Each day of the week only a particular type of post is allowed) aren’t really a good justification for not having automod at all.

      As Lemmy grows, we’re either going to need automod or the feeds are going to be filled with spam. Even if you add an unreasonable number of mods to every community (which comes with its own issues), you’re relying on users reporting the problem and some mod seeing it.

      It’s fine for now because there’s just not that many people, and so there’s not as much incentive to come in posting ads/spam/malicious/horrifying content.

      I did moderate on Reddit and while we had discussions about which rules were useful or bad for discussion, we didn’t consider turning it off completely because of how much bad stuff it took care of.

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      Well, they shadowban you for just mentioning certain things. Like lemmy… so I had that happen a few times. The automated mode tools have gotten progressively more aggressive and oppressive over the years.

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      Yeah. Karma requirements pretty much just force you to make a few comments without being an asshole to anyone before you can post. This seems like a fairly low bar to me, at least for anyone who’s not an asshole.

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        It does get ridiculous when subs have 2k karma requirements or like 2 year old account requirements.

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    To be a little more accurate… I like the fact that each instance can decide what the rules are of what kinds of posts are allowed and what kind of behaviour is appropriate or not.

    Some Lemmy communities and instances can have strict rules, some can be relaxed. It’s that freedom that I enjoy very much.

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    I always loved how /r/blackpeopletwitter only allowed black people to post in that sub, because that’s not racism.

    Also, they verified users just by asking them to send a photo of their skin, like people couldn’t just find a random picture online. Truly the dumbest sub in existence.

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      Might want to add an /s to that first sentence. I myself know that it’s sarcasm, but it’s not peoples’ faults if they don’t realize it, fam. ^^

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    It really did start to feel like a majority of the major subs were just 5 friends circle jerking each other and muting, blocking and deleting everyone else. Might as well just have made their subs private if they wanted it to be like that.

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    The big difference is: in reddit, you would actually be informed why your post was removed. Here, stuff vanishes without the poster even noticing

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        I‘m not in expert user. My experience: I planned to create a worldbuilding series for an sci-fi Aztec empire. Designed that empire, created some leading characters and made AI images for their spaceships.

        I then posted the image of the ship with the accompanying fluff and got some upvotes. I also crossposted this into an AI art area.

        Next day, my original post had vanished without trace, while the crosspost still existed.

        For me, this was my Wikipedia moment where I decided to not put more effort into lemmy.

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    Plus the number of times I got banned from what is this thing because my comment didn’t meet their standards.

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      It’s like r/history and r/science. Every single comment thread was completely empty with nothing but [removed] over and over. Why the fuck even have a sub at that point? And then anytime anyone mentioned how ridiculous it was, in other subs even, they’d get piled on by people defending it somehow. It’s like being in the fucking twilight zone.

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        I fucking hated those subs for that exact reason. What’s good about a thousand comments saying “removed”? How does that help anyone? It’s so asinine, and then the little goober defenders cry about how it’s to keep the level of discussion high. What discussion? Discussion is blatantly not allowed.

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        EXACTLY. could not stand that shit. smug and obnoxious. it makes sense to promote good answers, sure, but don’t remove everything else! what if i don’t need a PHD-level answer to something? can’t you use flairing to showcase good answers instead of deleting everything?

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    Sorry your post has been removed for not being general enough for “General Discussion”.

    Also you have been banned from “General Discussion” for posting in other “Specific Discussion” channels which is against our policy.

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    Deleted for Rule 7: no capitalization allowed in posts, and they must begin with the letter “h.” This is our version of the Green M&Ms clause. Aren’t we clever?

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    I can’t post in c/CasualConversation for some reason…

    I’ve never posted there before and am not banned as far as I can see, posts just never save properly when I try…

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    Yes. The other thing I got tired of was “we’re locking this because moderation is a lot of work, therefore no one can talk at all.”

    That should be an option in extreme cases but it should be considered a last resort, like locking the sub. Reddit mods would do it at the drop of a hat with any thread that was very active, with not one fuck to give about blocking legit discussion.