Greetings dear lemm.ee folks,

I have noticed an increasing number of lemm.ee users dissatisfied with Hexbearians. Reading through the modlogs on hexbear.net, I have observed truckloads of lemm.ee users being banned on hexbear.net, meaning that they won’t see any Hexbearian’s reply to them since Hexbearians aren’t able to see their comments. Despite this, I have yet to see the complaints from lemm.ee die down. May I politely ask, what is it that makes so many lemm.ee users hate us? And, how can we improve? Thanks!

I humbly request that all parties involved in the comments refrain from using slurs or name-calling to reduce the workload on mods and admins.

  • uralsolo [he/him]@hexbear.net
    3943·
    1 year ago

    I disagree with the characterization of Hexbear as being trolls. A bunch of people disagreeing with you in an argument isn’t trolling, if they were following you to other comments or sending you threatening DMs and shit now that’s a different story.

    • owlinsight@lemm.ee
      38·
      1 year ago

      I never said people disagreeing with me is trolling. I’m quite aware of what trolling actually is. And I find interesting how that “people disagreeing with you is not trolling” line gets said so often by people of that instance. Trolling is trolling.

      • forcequit [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
        4120·
        1 year ago

        to save us all the time, we had this discussion a month ago, in which is OPs first interaction with our instance.

        This post feels like bait tbh

        just realized the irony of “save us all the time” and linking a 500 comment post. My bad, just meant to say this is old news and feels like cheap drama

        • Nakoichi [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
          2817·
          1 year ago

          It’s because we’re loud, incredibly active, argumentative, and most importantly we are generally speaking unified. Yes there are differences, but compare the pushback when a hexbear posts something pro-china vs when someone else posts something anti-china. We’ll get maybe 2-3 responses, all of which will immediately get dogpiled anyway. They’ll get 10 of us. We also all upvote the takes we all agree on, so much so that it looks like vote manipulation. No other group on the fediverse has that type of unity, even if they broadly agree with each other.

          Also the giant emojis probably don’t help lol.

          I think this sums it up pretty well. We have a sort of organic party line and a tendency to back each other up when we see folks in the posting trenches.

          Really it’s just solidarity forged out of years of being assailed on all sides by liberals and fascists.

          If any critique I would level against our community is that occasionally this siege mentality can result in friendly fire, but most often those instances get cleared up pretty quickly since we also take self-crit very seriously.

      • uralsolo [he/him]@hexbear.net
        2525·
        1 year ago

        I’m sorry, but your post makes it sound like that’s what you’re saying. Either that or you consider pithy, dismissive responses (ie “cope and seethe” or PPB) to be trolling, which I also disagree with.

        • randint@lemm.ee
          291·
          1 year ago

          I know you won’t see this, but how are the pithy, dismissive responses not trolling? Those replies are exactly trolling.

        • MonsieurHedge@kbin.social
          26·
          1 year ago

          I don’t know how to break it to you that like 99% of people think using pithy, dismissive responses is bonafide asshole behaviour, and that’s why nobody wants to talk to you guys.

          Your “instance culture” is just being a bunch of assholes. This is why everyone defederates you.

        • GBU_28@lemm.eeEnglish
          7·
          1 year ago

          What? Ppb, rent free stuff is absolutely trolling.

          " In slang, a troll is a person who posts or makes inflammatory, insincere, digressive, extraneous, or off-topic messages online or in real life, with the intent of provoking others into displaying emotional responses, or manipulating others’ perception, thus acting as a bully or a provocateur. "

          It’s literally trying to dismiss or detail the conversation, or illicit frustration out of the recipient. It’s used when they don’t care for the discussion.

    • TurtlePower@lemm.ee
      211·
      1 year ago

      Replying with your instance’s precious ppb is trolling, you fucking apologist.

    • JasSmith@kbin.social
      11·
      1 year ago

      But he didn’t lament disagreement. He was very clear about the stuff he thinks is trolling.

      There was (and in my opinion still is) no point in seeing their answers since a great amount of their replies were just pictures or gifs of things like the butthole of a pig, literal shit and things of that caliber. Additionally, every posts or discussion that talks about them, inevitably draws their attention and they start to spam the same kind of stuff, relishing in the idea that they are hated, simply replying with things like “cope, seethe, rent free etc”.

      Why are you pretending you didn’t read his comment? It’s literally right there. We can all see it. Pictures of shit isn’t disagreement. It’s trolling.