• milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee
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    10 months ago

    without being a dick to others

    Well there you go, you’ve just defined sin(lessness)


    Not everyone has the same definition though - but if you’re coming from a Christian-influenced culture, that’s not far off the core meaning of sin in Christianity, just with an added “easier said than done”

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      Sin - a deed that sky fairy says is bad and you must jump through this sky fairy’s follwers’ hoops to divest yourself of it to remain in their and sky fairy’s favor. If you don’t, you don’t get to go to sky fairy’s happy place when you die.

      Being a dick - no sky fairy involved. You’re just being a dick and need to make amends if you don’t want to be perceived as a dick, or just carry on being one. No divine retribution, no hoops to jump through for Elysium.

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        10 months ago

        So, it’s like if you smoke cigarettes next to a pregnant lady, and the sign on the wall says no smoking. If someone asks you to stop, are they currying favour with the wall-fairy? Or are you being a dick by passing smoke to the lady (even if you don’t realise it’s damaging her health).


        Besides, if we’re talking Christian belief, said sky fairy is the same who made you and the world you live in, not too mention a bunch of other credentials, so he has a bit more clout than your average pigeon.

        And as to the followers’ hoops: “the views expressed herein do not always represent the views of the management” (although they ought to, if followers are following well!)

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      10 months ago

      In some Christianity. Many define it in terms of disobeying God, which can conflict pretty badly with the not-being-a-dick thing depending on interpretation

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        In correct Christianity. (Yes, I am bigoted about what sort of Christianity is correct.)

        Obeying God is, a) not being a dick to God, and b) not being a dick is easier said than done and God understands this better than we do.

        Agreed the interpretation can turn this to either seem bad or genuinely be bad; and there are other also-valid ways to oversimplify it. But I still contend that in genuine Christianity not-sin is at least essentially close to not-being-a dick as long as you can think ahead to later consequences of your actions and not be a dick with the consequences either.

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          10 months ago

          I’m not Christian, so I don’t have a view on what interpretations are “correct.” But if I might ask, how did you come to the conclusion that your interpretation is the right one?

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      10 months ago

      I’m not from a religious background but I always thought sex before marriage is a sin, no? I’m not sure how in modern times sex before marriage between two consenting adults is being a dick.