Sarah Silverman, Christopher Golden, and Richard Kadrey are suing OpenAI and Meta over violation of their copyrighted books. The trio says their works were pulled from illegal “shadow libraries” without their consent.

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      1 year ago

      Unworkable copyright maximalist take that wouldn’t help artists but would further entrench corporate IP holders.

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          What, explain why “artists should pay artists that they study” is an unworkable copyright maximalist take? No, that’s self evident. How it won’t actually help artists, but would further entrench the corporate IP hoarders? No, I won’t do that either. It’s self evident. If your position is literally that artists should pay the artists that inspire them and that they study, you’re a deeply unserious person whose position doesn’t deserve to be seriously debated.

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            Uh huh. So you don’t actually want to discuss, you just want to be insulting and shut down conversation?

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                  No one is insulting you. How are you going to pay he unnumbered generations of humanity from which art has grown?

                  It’s a nonsense suggestion

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                    It’s quite insulting when you dismiss without any greater reasoning than naming an argument. It’s subtle, but it wouldn’t exactly fly in any kind of serious rl discussion. There’s a difference between addressing an argument and simply calling it names and refusing to provide elaboration.

                    Obviously you can’t pay dead people, nor did I say you had to. You could easily simply start, without making it retroactive.

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        1 year ago

        I find that a little bit of a specious argument actually. An LLM is not a person, it is itself a commercial derivative. Because it is created for profit and capable of outproducing any human by many orders of magnitude, I think comparing it to human training is a little simplistic and deceptive.