I think that a Marxist society should allow for 0 proprietary software, and instead support for everything in free and open source decentralized technology.

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    It goes hand-in-hand with a post-revolution socialist society. Proprietary software is essentially private property, which would be eradicated in a worker’s state. It would most likely not be a first priority for the new state as there are more pressing matters - for the US for example, the dismantling of the military and the closing down of all international bases - but it would be inevitable with socialism.

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      I was trying to figure out how to say what you said so I’ll just piggy back. I agree that moving from proprietary to foss is definitely one aspect of the “withering away of the state”. Engels didn’t explicitly write about software for obvious reasons but yeah lol.

      I think, and this is probably preaching to the choir, but one thing that we can keep doing is just supporting foss and try to get more people to use and contribute. Regardless of if the revolution were to happen tomorrow, we’ve definitely seen a big uptick in open source being used over the last 20-30 years.

      I’ve seen people bring up that Lemmy/Mast/kbin are open source and my thoughts is always “as it should be”. We are living through what I think might be a software revolution as more people get fed up with data harvesting and proprietary services. Will this era last? Who knows but I hope it does.

      Funny enough, Linux and foss were what actually started my radicalization to the left. Back when I was using Ubuntu 9.10 I just kept asking why this wasn’t this the norm? I mean Linux growing pains baggage aside that is.

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        This reminds me: it’s time to install Linux. But I don’t know where to start. I’ll open another thread and see if anyone can help.

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          Depending on your level of tech knowledge, my rec is Arch or Linux Mint. Linux Mint is practically good to go OOtB. Pop!_OS is another one that has gained popularity over the last few years. NixOS I think is the new distro that is getting a lot of buzz right now but I’m gonna wait to see where it goes and how it matures before looking at it. I’ve settled on Mint and have been using it for about 5 years as my daily driver now.

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            I’m hearing lots of support for mint. Does it get updated still? I remember looking into one distro and then learned that it was no longer being maintained – one of the reasons why I didn’t look back into it till now.

            My tech knowledge is fair, I’d say. I’m not too scared of breaking things, using terminal commands, or looking through the settings. It’s just that I’ve not needed to do much for a long time other than open word and a browser.

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              Mint is very much still being maintanied. And it’s a great distro, especially for beginners. You get the benefits of Debian (one of the oldest still maintained, very used, many programs are packaged for it), Ubuntu (one of the most used on the desktop/laptop, large company behind it, most (proprietary) software is written with it in mind), with great tools out of the box for a lot of stuff that makes it more beginner friendly and actually somewhat better on the desktop.

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                Ah, so some distros, like Ubuntu, are big enough that software companies, like Adobe but not necessarily Adobe, make compatible software? Any chance this includes Word, or is LibreOffice the go to word processor for Linux?

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                  No, it’s just than when/if some company makes software for “Linux”, some of the time Ubuntu is actually the only one they support.

                  Last I checked, still no Word (except in the browser), so LibreOffice is still the go to.

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          I’d recommend Mint. I’ve been using that for a while, but recently switched to Debian. Debian 12 seems promising and can have proprietary firmware on it easier set up for new users now. Debian is what people prefer for stability.

          Id recommend just finding an old laptop and putting something like mint on it if you are starting. Some people like Manjaro for the newish packages. Some people like Arch linux for the actually up to date packages.

          If you really want to go security hipster, use Alpine linux

          if you want to have lots of useful tools to make rich people’s lives interesting install Kali Linux

          If everything seems to easy for you and you like a challenge, try Gentoo.

          If you want to have all of the options available when you install it, use linux from scratch.

          One of my friends swears by Nix OS, I think that has some interesting implications.

          if you care more about security use some variant of BSD

          If you really like rust use Redox OS.

          If you want something open source but can run windows programs, use React OS.

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              ReactOS

              I’ve seen this OS mentioned before and I can’t help but think of some shitty OS written in javascript using react to render the desktop.

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                Sorry for mentioning React OS. I just think it is funny and amazing the divercity of work has been done in the open source community. Yes I know not all of them are stable and well tested. That is why i recommended Mint. The other stuff is harder to use or best used for edge cases.

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                  I know nothing about ReactOS, I just can’t see the term “react” in a software related context without thinking of facebook’s javascript UI framework.