A person can be killed instantly through many different means. Gunshots to the brain, being crushed by immense weight, being crushed by smaller weights moving at high speeds, high speed collisions with hard surfaces.

As we know it, to be killed painlessly, is to be killed instantly.

If you instantly destroy a person’s entire brain then they died without pain.

Yet the most effective ways of instantly destroying someone’s entire brain are considered ihumane.

Like letting someone die of an untreatable disease but giving them so many pain meds they can’t feel anything is “humane” but shooting them in the brainstem or destroying the entire brain isn’t.

If instantly killing someone by smashing their head with a massive rock, or shooting them in the brain stem is inhumane, then humans only consider it “humane” if it doesn’t leave a mess.

Obviously I’ve left out a lot of different ways to die, be they slowly or instantaneous, but that list is massive.

But I’d much rather die messily yet painlessly than painfully yet “pretty”

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      I originally made this post on showerthoughts but it didn’t receive positive attention.

      I know you’re pretty active so you might’ve seen it there.

      I reposted it here since it seemed controversial which seems fitting for this community.

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      Humans will die regardless of that ideology. They will die painfully and slowly or painlessly and quickly.

      But killing someone as quickly as possible, regardless of how “horrific” is more “humane” than killing them slowly, or in a way that causes unnecessary pain.

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    I definitely see why you would post this to unpopular. I see why humane an inhimne would be so hard to define.

    It’s inhumane for a solider to surrender in a fight and be starved or tortured to death in a prison camp.

    It’s humane for a late stage cancer patient to be given a set of drugs to allow them to die without pain.

    The middle ground is where it gets real blurry. Hopefully humanity progresses enough to straighten out that middle ground and ideally eliminate it all together.

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    The mess can be mitigated if you’re selective about where it’s done.

    I don’t think there’s a difference in regard to the humane value, whether you shoot someone in a lab vs hanging over a bridge railing.

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    Does it count as painless (a.k.a instant death) if I get drugs that disable my nerve system and some sadist starts attempting to kill by torture?

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    Inhumane is when someone does it to you purposefully, it has little to do with the pain factor.

    Losing your head in a car accident is not inhumane, losing your head as the death penalty is.

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    I think about this a lot, mostly in relation to Dr. assisted suicide or ways to make your inevitable end not quite as bad. And I know some will say, you’re going to be dead anyways, but I say my kitty suffer and suffocate for 10 minutes before she died and I would do anything to take that pain from her. This happened years ago and I still have real bad PTSD. Not only did she suffer immensely unnecessarily, but I am too.

    A clean painless death is not just for the one dying, it’s about dignity and minimizing undue suffering for all involved.