• Cyclist@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    This is really sad if true, but these things happen in war. They wouldn’t happen if Russia hadn’t invaded Ukraine, so it’s still Putin’s fault.

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      1 year ago

      Snicky, one-sided reasoning – “Well, Ukraine has done it. But! It’s still Russia who is to blame”. That’s why we have what we do.

      If Ukraine hadn’t played with the attempts to join NATO, invited by USA and Europe, Russia wouldn’t have invaded it. If Ukraine hadn’t descriminated the russians in Lugansk and Donetsk for a decade, Russia wouldn’t have invaded it.

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        @cuenca @Cyclist That was the EXCUSE, not the reason. The reason was that Putin wants to completely rebuild the USSR and that entails expanding its borders over UKr, Moldovia, Romania, Bulgaria, etc. until it looms over Europe and then take the rest of Europe. It is a KNOWN ambition of his. Don’t be silly. This is about one man’s megalomaniac dreams. It has only superficial connections to real politics.

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          1 year ago

          The reason was that Putin wants to completely rebuild the USSR

          One more sorry-ass expert on what “Putin wants”. How can you possibly know that? Have you asked him?

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      1 year ago

      While it might be so, it shows that Ukraine used this tragedy for propaganda against Russia “targeting civilians”.

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          1 year ago

          In this case it seems to be false and that doesn’t help with Ukraine’s credibility.
          Mind though, I’m not saying that Russia doesn’t target civilians in general, this is whole another topic.

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        1 year ago

        and it’s not for the 1st time. Remember Bucha, for instance.