Some mentioned the other one was old. Heres a two-day old article on the same issue.

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    1 year ago

    Once again lumping in suicides without clearly stating such

    Suicides are a form of gun violence.

    This data includes suicides, which a mag disconnector, chamber indicator, registry, etc won’t help with.

    I never made that argument, so this is a strawman.

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      1 year ago

      Strawman? My friend these are gun laws in California. The state we’re talking about.

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        My friend these are gun laws in California.

        And the intent behind them, at least the ones you specified, is not to deal with suicides. They are to prevent accidents (which is a part of gun violence).

        You are basically saying “these car seat belt laws don’t do anything to prevent airplane crashes!”. Yeah no shit, that wasn’t the point of those laws.

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          1 year ago

          Dog I think you’re losing track of the conversion. This post is about mag capacities, a measure trying to tackle gun murder. I started my comment talking about gun murders. I’m still taking about gun murders and related laws. You brought up suicide statistics

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            1 year ago

            You brought up suicide statistics

            No, I brought up firearm deaths as a whole, which is a part of the problem. California has addressed it, which is why they have a lower firearm death rate.

            I started my comment talking about gun murders.

            And like I said, that is misleading. California’s gun laws were added to reduce firearm deaths at a whole, so it is misleading to only go by gun murders.

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                  1 year ago

                  Lumping in 2 issues with 2 separate causes and solutions as evidence that (in this case) a mag capacity ban works, is an oversimplification.

                  Mag cap bans have nothing to do with suicide and weren’t intended to. So bringing it up is just a distraction from the conversion this post is focusing on.

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                    1 year ago

                    You’re the one who broadened the conversation:

                    "California regulations have done nothing to improve gun violence in their state when compared to less restrictive states like Texas. "