• conciselyverbose@kbin.social
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    And every one of them comes back because paying Steam 30% is by far the most profitable way to do business. They absolutely deserve every single penny of it.

    30% commission on an all margin product is not even sort of unusual or unfair.

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          Then developers can release games off steam, and some do.

          But steam has many features people want and use that would add development costs if every dev had to make similar tools in house.

          Think SteamVR, Steam Controller, workshop, community forums, steam achievements, steam overlay, friends, etc …

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            ‘This thing should be slightly different.’

            ‘Then use something else entirely!’

            Some of y’all really do not know how criticism works.

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                  Weird because I provided actual services and functionality that steam provides in exchange for that cut, and your response was that me mentioning devs do have other options isn’t “understanding criticism”

                  So do you have an actual response or…?

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                    Your response to criticism of Steam was ‘there’s other services.’

                    That does absolutely nothing to deflect from criticism of Steam.

                    Praising their various features comes a little closer, but still doesn’t justify taking an entire third of every game’s revenue. It takes a whole fucking lot of hypothetical work, which you imagine developers would have to do, to amount to the slice Steam takes right off the top.

                    What Valve offers that makes companies put up with that is their de-facto monopoly presence. They can sell many copies through Steam - or they won’t sell many copies.

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      “It makes money so it can’t be wrong.”

      “It’s commonplace so it must be fine.”

      Y’all have no idea what criticism even looks like.

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        The fact that using their services and paying them their cut is more profitable than not doing so absolutely, in and of itself, proves beyond discussion that their cut is fair.

        Yes, sales should cost money. Moving units is a fucking massive value add. Valve deserves every penny they take and more. They’re the best thing that ever happened to PC gaming and nothing else is remotely close.

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          Beyond discussion! What a mind-job.

          Continued use only proves this is a way to make money. Probably the best available way. But to suggest that, so long as people are doing it, there cannot possibly be problems, is obvious crap.

          Especially when you add “and more.” Oh: so this isn’t the exact right amount, as decreed by mighty god himself? We can talk about the middleman’s cut, so long as the rent goes up?

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              There is no point humoring abusive word salad.

              Valve could take a lot less and it wouldn’t kill them. Or PC gaming. Wouldn’t be whatever frothing insult you pretend it is, either. It’s just… less money. They’d still make a shitload of money. Just… less.

              The number can be smaller and the sky wouldn’t fall.

              The number right now is obscenely high. It’s the most they think they can get away with. And they can only get away with it because of their de-facto monopoly, which should end.