It’s so easy to win a debate once you silence your opponents.
They’re still talking about disinformation b.t.w., and people may still believe that it’s about searching for truth : https://twitter.com/KawsachunNews/status/1712804124579004485
Here’s the values of the “free world”.
I’m from France and we had yellow vests a few years ago. If a single one of them(, paid by the state or not,) murdered someone, then all their propaganda would have been banned, it works for internal as well as external movements(“terrorists”).
And be assured that we(sterners) would turn our backs on Israel, censor them, and call them terrorists, if they aligned themselves with China&others tomorrow. Our population would find it surprising for a few years, but with a few videos of israelis crimes would then agree that we’re right to have changed our minds.
Internet was the international phone, a hope for both sides to discuss with each other and a place where both propaganda could coexist, but politicians ruin everything, words are dangerous and kill people apparently(, no, our proganda manufacture consent for more killings, if explaining is enough to justify/forgive, then it’s criminal not to explain !), our minds are too weak and must be protected for our own good(, how convenient), we’re always telling the truth and the other is always lying, or whatever, kinda useless to say here what people of Lemmygrad or Hexbear(, a minority of the population, forcefully exiled by reddit, under governmental pressures, where nobody will hear them,) have already learned by themselves.
Misleading. The content isn’t banned by the EU, the EU only cares about actual violent content or content promoting violence. However Musk’s X just isn’t good at moderation, intentionally or not.
Blame lies with Musk and X.
You really believe that it’s only against violent content(, from one side only) ?
It’s against misinformation, aka pro-Hamas informations :
Her complete answer here.Reddit is also banning any content created by the Hamas :
Words are illegal.
This may be considered illegal Hamas propaganda(, we don’t see what has been censored), whether it is or not misinformation, and misinformation by Israel isn’t sanctioned because they’re not terrorists for whatever reason, you know what i mean.Astroturfing is also an issue with the Internet, but according to us it’s only done by our opponents.
As far as the EU is concerned, Hamas is a terrorist organisation. Thus supporting them is supporting terrorists, and therefore violence, in their eyes. So businesses operating in the EU will be expected to remove content in support of Hamas.
The removed content in your post was in support of Palestine. The EU does not ban this. However, for whatever reason Musk is censoring this, and will likely use the EU as an excuse.
I won’t even comment on reddit moderation.
This video from the Grayzone was probably supportive of Hamas, because it was supportive of (at least a solution for )Palestine(, at the expense of Israel unfortunately), not supporting the Hamas would be supporting israeli colonization, one of them has to lose territory if they don’t want to be united in diversity. Do we hear about a solution benefiting both palestinians and israelis ?
If the west takes Israel, then it should give a part of its territory, palestinians would still lose holy lands as they temporarily did during the crusades, but at least the theft would be less obvious, and creating a larger Palestine in, e.g., Louisiana or Mississipi, would create strong bonds between both sides of the Atlantic.
I mean, there are solutions but our only offer is to suck it, understandably they refuse, and not supporting the Hamas means refusing to support the only option they were left with.I don’t see a pro-palestinian point of view which wouldn’t be supportive of the Hamas/‘Islamic Resistance Movement’, what kind of solution would such point of view support ?
It’s possible to support Palestine as a people and a nation without supporting Hamas. Indeed, Hamas don’t have control of all of Palestine, in fact (correct me if I’m wrong) I don’t think they actually won the election back in 2006. They had the most votes in the Gaza region, but assuming the election was for the entire nation then the PLA won that.
If anything, equating Hamas to Palestine is exactly what Israel is doing. They use that to justify condemnation of any support for Palestine.
I don’t really care about 2006, but thanks for your answers. However, what is the solution for palestinians if i’m not supporting Hamas or other similar fighters ? What should i support, since Israel will continue its expansion unstopped ? And even if they surprisingly&durably stopped, should palestinians accept the current situation and what they were left with ? Why would that be fair ?
I don’t think that you have an answer, but i’d like to know how i could support palestinians without supporting Hamas and the destruction of Israel ? If they succeed then they’ve liberated the land. If they fail they wouldn’t have lost anything. We’re not offering them an alternative, or i don’t see it.It’s up to you who you support. For me, I just dig my heels in the sand and call out bullshit wherever I see it on every side. Neither “side” in this conflict is clean, although many of the people are. It’s very complicated, because we shouldn’t throw the baby out with the bath water. There is no good answer.
Yeah, we shouldn’t throw the baby out with the bath water by demonising a side, which is what what we(sterners)&others will continue to do, as if it was necessary, but i hope that you’re wrong in saying that there is no good answer.
I wouldn’t be content if Israel was destroyed and everyone of their inhabitants were killed as well as their territory lost, i obviously wouldn’t want that to happen to palestinians either, i refuse to believe that there’s no way to please both sides, and i mostly blame the west, because they refuse that the israelis go elsewhere like in a (cold or hot uninhabited )desert, and they also refuse to give a portion of their land to palestinians, yet dare to take the moral high ground that Israel has a right to exist, i can’t see a way not to side with Hamas because their cause is just, what else could they do except submit or fight back ?
If they were given a voice, i mean, if there was a real debate, then solutions would appear and we wouldn’t conclude that there’s no other option for them than to comply. I formulated other “solutions” in the past, but giving a part of our land in exchange for Jerusalem and what surrounds it is my favorite one. Yet we’ll continue to paint Israel as the victim and, more importantly, this conflict as unsolvable(, with Israel’s dominion as the only possible outcome). We should talk and act, not be idle in front of this decades-old problem, what is wrong with us ? Is that how we would want to be treated ? Something must be done and it must come from us.