Recently, many of our anti-Zionists posts have been downvoted to oblivion by liberals. As hexberians realized a while back, downvotes only help liberals since they are more numerous and they don’t need to engage in discourse. I am proposing to just get rid of downvotes and instead engage in discourse on content that we disagree on.

    • kristina (she/her)@lemmygrad.ml
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      1 year ago

      Do you want me to insult you? Or is the civility only supposed to go one way?

      I explained to you that debating a lived experience of a minority is not how you go about this. It always ends in this. I even explained how to do better. Did you not comprehend that?

      It feels like you’re treating the Hexbear downvoted removal as if it’s the same as what’s happening here. I don’t see the similarities.

      Almost every single post and comment in LG has 1-6 downvotes, from federated instances, always.

      Sometimes a bot gets spun up that slams 30-60 downvotes for a day or so, until they get blocked or the instance gets banned.

      I fail to see how this doesn’t help lemmygrad. Downvotes would not be federated, so they wouldn’t affect your feed. If someone from lemmy.world or lemmy.ml sees those posts, they will still see the downvotes on their end because those admins havent purged the downvotes. Unless there is some sort of new spam feature that I’m not aware of.

      These users are constantly spinning up new accounts, and trying again. If they weren’t able to do that, what kind of harassment would they move on to?

      Apples to oranges. Its easier to harass people with downvotes. DMs and comments are less common. And for the record, if I could precog and shoot them through the monitor, I would. Until we get communist precog tech, you’d need to have some sort of way to screen spam and dms and comments from new accounts as that is the bulk of issues. When it comes to targeted harassment, being able to allowlist certain people or instances to dm you is good, and it would also be good to have a hashlist for removing shock content. As an example for an allowlist, maybe if you ever upvoted someone, it could be an option to have that as a dm allowlist.

      Luckily I have only experienced DM harassment on hexbear twice, both users were banned within 10 minutes. Still needs an improvement, I did not need to see that dick.

      This is a different instance, with different conditions, and if I wanted to have an hb account I would.

      If you’re worried about the site culture, the site culture of hexbear and blahaj are very different and remained roughly the same as before, minus downvote harassment.