It’s only infallible when it’s the message you want to hear. If the message isn’t to your liking then it must be the work of the devil. Very similar to “he’s not hurting the right people”.
Indeed. I was trying to (probably too obliquely) highlight how futile it is to inject any logic or reasoning into the situation, given the subject matter.
It only applies to very explicit things the Pope calls out as infallible, like love your neighbor or the golden rule. It doesn’t apply to everything he says. Not a fan of him, but these words aren’t infallible.
…We teach and define that it is a dogma divinely revealed that the Roman pontiff when he speaks ex cathedra, that is when in discharge of the office of pastor and doctor of all Christians, by virtue of his supreme Apostolic authority, he defines a doctrine regarding faith or morals to be held by the universal Church, by the Divine assistance promised to him in blessed Peter, is possessed of that infallibility with which the divine Redeemer willed that his Church should be endowed in defining doctrine regarding faith or morals, and that therefore such definitions of the Roman pontiff are of themselves, and not from the consent of the Church, irreformable.
Sounds pretty cut and dried to me. The bishop was directly contravening doctrine regarding faith or morals.
Papal infallibility is also traditional doctrine. Sounds like some people really want to be excommunicated.
It’s only infallible when it’s the message you want to hear. If the message isn’t to your liking then it must be the work of the devil. Very similar to “he’s not hurting the right people”.
Indeed. I was trying to (probably too obliquely) highlight how futile it is to inject any logic or reasoning into the situation, given the subject matter.
It only applies to very explicit things the Pope calls out as infallible, like love your neighbor or the golden rule. It doesn’t apply to everything he says. Not a fan of him, but these words aren’t infallible.
Sounds pretty cut and dried to me. The bishop was directly contravening doctrine regarding faith or morals.